Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[mtncats@planetcomm.net]

Hi Paul,

Here you go: http://www.twinoaks.org/  Not primarily agricultural, but 
otherwise...  Since '67.

We spent several months on an Israeli kibbutz, founded in 1923, still working 
today if the rockets missed.  And only the third oldest one there.  It 
qualified under all your requisites.  I worked in groves, orchards, chicken 
production and a dairy.  And learned we aren't particularly community-minded.

I've read about similar organizations, much younger, in Italy and Spain.

Tom (not far from Twin Oaks)


On 7/17/06 at 8:29 PM TradingPostPaul wrote:

>Uriel, I've been following the IC movement for over 30 years, give or take
>a few.  Let me stress that they don't list hundreds of communes at
>http://www.ic.org/pnp/myths.php . Their "intentional communities" cover
>everything from dormitory arrangements to "ecovillages, cohousing,
>residential land trusts, communes, student co-ops, urban housing
>cooperatives, and other projects where people strive together with a common
>vision". And very little of those have anything to do with living and
>working on the land. I've been on the IC discussion list a long time, and
>all I've ever seen about food growing and rural living is talk. A lot of
>talk, such as "the Eden Project".
>
>They say "Many people use these terms interchangeably, however, it is
>probably more useful to use the term "commune" to describe a particular
>kind of intentional community whose members live "communally" in an
>economic sense--operating with a common treasury and sharing ownership of
>their property. Most intentional communities are not communes, though some
>of the communities most active in the communities movement are."
>
>By their definition, I haven't found any working communes since the '70s.
>Though they list 540 intentional communities in North America, where are
>the communes? I'm not  counting religious groups supported and governed by
>an outside organization like a temple or diocese. I should point out that
>on that list almost no ICs are rural agricultural groups. I wish they were.
>
>
>I often mention the need for community and I argue that individual,
>isolated self sufficiency is a myth.
>
>paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
>
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>On 7/17/2006 at 4:44 PM Uriel wrote:
>
>>Go to www.ic.org where hundreds are listed.
>>
>>Uriel / SW Missouri
>>living in the community of Nasalam
>>> There are many communes.  Google intentional community.
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>>> the hippie commune:  time for a fresh new look at one tested old
>>>> technology?
>>>>
>>>>
>
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