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["Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>]

Sarcasm is an art best left to conversation as print has a much harder time
conveying its' subtleties.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joey Carr" <joey AT metalab.unc.edu>
To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
<internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Iraq costs are skyrocketing


> That would be what we call sarcasm.
>
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Shea Tisdale wrote:
>
> > Since we are nitpicking information.
> >
> > How do you know the Ba'athists are uniformly horrible people?  That's a
> > pretty broad brush you're painting with there.  "Ought to be executed to
the
> > last?"  And we wonder why they want to kill us...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joey Carr" <joey AT metalab.unc.edu>
> > To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
> > <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Iraq costs are skyrocketing
> >
> >
> > > First of all, no doubt the Ba'athists are uniformly horrible people,
ought
> > > to be executed to the last, but even if that were fact it would not
excuse
> > > an unjust war.
> > >
> > > I wanted to admonish you to check you figures about how many Iraqi
> > > casualties occured... certainly there were more than a couple
thousand,
> > > they were dying three hundred to an "engagement".
> > >
> > > But, perhaps not suprizingly, there's almost no reliable information
> > > available on the subject.
> > >
> > > Here's the most reputable source I could find quickly:
> > >
> > >
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq030528_casualties.html
> > >
> > > This source lists:
> > > 620 civilian deaths in Baghdad, 256 in Najaf, 425 in Karbala and as
many
> > > as 1,100 in Nasiriyah
> > >
> > > Anyone find a better count?  Now, that's just a couple thousand
civilian
> > > deaths; as everybody knows, once you don a uniform you're no longer
human
> > > and not worthy of anyone's sypathies.
> > >
> > > -Joey
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steven Champeon wrote:
> > >
> > > > on Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:22:41PM -0400, trekkie AT spamcop.net wrote:
> > > > > Quoting "David R.Matusiak" <dave AT matusiak.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > and now we are looking at footing the bill for a trillion dollar
> > > > > > Economic Stimulus package to the country we just destroyed.
please
> > > > > > tell me there is some freaking Leprechaun and Gold at the end of
> > this
> > > > > > Black Rainbow.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the problem I had with the war. We *have* to rebuild Iraq
now
> > > > > that we destroyed it no matter who is in office.
> > > >
> > > > We destroyed Iraq? That's news to me. I thought it was the Ba'ath
Party
> > > > and thirty years of despotic rule that destroyed Iraq. Sure, there
were
> > > > the UN-imposed sanctions after the first time Hussein tried to
invade
> > > > Kuwait (and lost at great cost), and the millions dead after he
tried to
> > > > invade Iran (and lost at far greater cost), but come on - the recent
> > > > unpleasantness killed what, a couple of thousand people? And the
> > > > infrastructure destroyed since the war far outweighs the damage done
by
> > > > coalition troops. Or are you talking about the government?
> > > >
> > > > I agree we need to follow through and help the Iraqi moderates build
a
> > > > stable government, and one way to keep the hardliners out of power
is to
> > > > make everyone else reasonably happy and prosperous. But we didn't
> > > > destroy Iraq, the country. They did that quite handily on their own.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking
> > > for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem.
> > >                 -- Alan McKay
> > >
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