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[Joey Carr <joey AT metalab.unc.edu>]

That would be what we call sarcasm.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Shea Tisdale wrote:

> Since we are nitpicking information.
> 
> How do you know the Ba'athists are uniformly horrible people?  That's a
> pretty broad brush you're painting with there.  "Ought to be executed to the
> last?"  And we wonder why they want to kill us...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joey Carr" <joey AT metalab.unc.edu>
> To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/";
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> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Iraq costs are skyrocketing
> 
> 
> > First of all, no doubt the Ba'athists are uniformly horrible people, ought
> > to be executed to the last, but even if that were fact it would not excuse
> > an unjust war.
> >
> > I wanted to admonish you to check you figures about how many Iraqi
> > casualties occured... certainly there were more than a couple thousand,
> > they were dying three hundred to an "engagement".
> >
> > But, perhaps not suprizingly, there's almost no reliable information
> > available on the subject.
> >
> > Here's the most reputable source I could find quickly:
> >
> > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq030528_casualties.html
> >
> > This source lists:
> > 620 civilian deaths in Baghdad, 256 in Najaf, 425 in Karbala and as many
> > as 1,100 in Nasiriyah
> >
> > Anyone find a better count?  Now, that's just a couple thousand civilian
> > deaths; as everybody knows, once you don a uniform you're no longer human
> > and not worthy of anyone's sypathies.
> >
> > -Joey
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Steven Champeon wrote:
> >
> > > on Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:22:41PM -0400, trekkie AT spamcop.net wrote:
> > > > Quoting "David R.Matusiak" <dave AT matusiak.org>:
> > > >
> > > > > and now we are looking at footing the bill for a trillion dollar
> > > > > Economic Stimulus package to the country we just destroyed.  please
> > > > > tell me there is some freaking Leprechaun and Gold at the end of
> this
> > > > > Black Rainbow.
> > > >
> > > > This is the problem I had with the war. We *have* to rebuild Iraq now
> > > > that we destroyed it no matter who is in office.
> > >
> > > We destroyed Iraq? That's news to me. I thought it was the Ba'ath Party
> > > and thirty years of despotic rule that destroyed Iraq. Sure, there were
> > > the UN-imposed sanctions after the first time Hussein tried to invade
> > > Kuwait (and lost at great cost), and the millions dead after he tried to
> > > invade Iran (and lost at far greater cost), but come on - the recent
> > > unpleasantness killed what, a couple of thousand people? And the
> > > infrastructure destroyed since the war far outweighs the damage done by
> > > coalition troops. Or are you talking about the government?
> > >
> > > I agree we need to follow through and help the Iraqi moderates build a
> > > stable government, and one way to keep the hardliners out of power is to
> > > make everyone else reasonably happy and prosperous. But we didn't
> > > destroy Iraq, the country. They did that quite handily on their own.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -- 
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> > for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem.
> >                 -- Alan McKay
> >
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Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking
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                -- Alan McKay