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  • From: bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] State vs. Fed
  • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:14:45 -0800 (PST)

Bev, these movements are being widely touted on Libertarian sites. They
shouldn't be necessary. The 10th Ammendment -- the very last Right , in the
Bill of Rights-- gives all authority to the states that aren't stipulated to
the Federal government. People just tend to overlook the Constitution.

Lincoln did more damage to the Consttution than all of those before and
after, combined. But, we can't change history. Hopefull, some of these
movements will force the federal politicians to pay closer attention to the
9th and 10th Ammendments.

Right now, it seems the whole fabric of the system is being torn asunder, but
President smiley Face doesn't seem bothered, so , perhaps, neither should
we..............

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--- On Tue, 2/17/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [Homestead] State vs. Fed
> To: "Homestead List" <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 12:11 PM
> Will there eventually be a second Civil War over state's
> rights?
>
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88218
>
>
> Lawmakers in 20 states move to reclaim sovereignty
> Obama's $1 trillion deficit-spending 'stimulus
> plan' seen as last straw
>
> NEW YORK
> – As the Obama administration attempts to push through
> Congress a nearly
> $1 trillion deficit spending plan that is weighted heavily
> toward
> advancing typically Democratic-supported social welfare
> programs, a
> rebellion against the growing dominance of federal control
> is beginning
> to spread at the state level.
>
> So far, eight states have introduced resolutions declaring
> state
> sovereignty under the Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the
> Constitution,
> including Arizona, Hawaii, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, New
> Hampshire,
> Oklahoma and Washington.
>
> Analysts expect that in addition, another 20 states may see
> similar
> measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama,
> Arkansas,
> California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas,
> Nevada, Maine and
> Pennsylvania.
>
> "What we are trying to do is to get the U.S. Congress
> out of the state's
> business," Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy
> Brogdon told WND.
>
> "Congress is completely out of line spending trillions
> of dollars over
> the last 10 years putting the nation into a debt crisis
> like we've never
> seen before," Brogdon said, arguing that the Obama
> stimulus plan is the
> last straw taxing state patience in the brewing sovereignty
> dispute.
>
> "This particular 111th Congress is the biggest bunch
> of over-reachers
> and underachievers we've ever had in Congress," he
> said.
>
> "A sixth-grader should realize you can't borrow
> money to pay off your
> debt, and that is the Obama administration's answer for
> a stimulus
> package," he added.
>
> The Ninth Amendment reads, "The enumeration in the
> Constitution, of
> certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage
> others
> retained by the people."
>
> The Tenth Amendment specifically provides, "The powers
> not delegated to
> the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it
> to the
> States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the
> people."
>
> Brogdon, the lead sponsor of the Oklahoma state senate
> version of the
> sovereignty bill, has been a strong opponent of extending
> the plan to
> build a four-football-fields-wide Trans-Texas Corridor
> parallel to
> Interstate-35 to Oklahoma, as WND reported.
>
> Rollback federal authority
>
> The various sovereignty measures moving through state
> legislatures are
> designed to reassert state authority through a rollback of
> federal
> authority under the powers enumerated in the Constitution,
> with the
> states assuming the governance of the non-enumerated
> powers, as required
> by the Tenth Amendment.
>
> The state sovereignty measures, aimed largely at the
> perceived fiscal
> irresponsibility of Congress in the administrations of Bill
> Clinton and
> George W. Bush, have gained momentum with the $1 trillion
> deficit-spending economic stimulus package the Obama
> administration is
> currently pushing through Congress.
>
> Particularly disturbing to many state legislators are the
> increasing
> number of "unfunded mandates" that have
> proliferated in social welfare
> programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid, in which bills
> passed by
> Congress dictate policy to the states without providing
> funding.
>
> In addition, the various state resolutions include
> discussion of a wide
> range of policy areas, including the regulation of firearms
> sales
> (Montana) and the demand to issue drivers licenses with
> technology to
> embed personal information under the Western Hemisphere
> Travel
> Initiative and the Real ID Act (Michigan).
>
> Hawaii's measure calls for a new state constitutional
> convention
> to return self-governance, a complaint that traces back to
> the days it
> was a U.S. territory, prior to achieving statehood in 1959.
>
> "We are trying to send a message to the federal
> government that the
> states are trying to reclaim their sovereignty,"
> Republican Rep. Matt
> Shea, the lead sponsor of Washington's sovereignty
> resolution told WND.
>
> "State sovereignty has been eroded in so many areas,
> it's hard to know
> where to start," he said. "There are a ton of
> federal mandates imposed
> on states, for instance, on education spending and welfare
> spending."
>
> Shea said the Obama administration's economic stimulus
> package moving
> through Congress is a "perfect example."
>
> "In the state of Washington, we have increased state
> spending 33 percent
> in the last three years and hired 6,000 new state
> employees, often using
> federal mandates as an excuse to grow state
> government," he said. "We
> need to return government back down to the people, to keep
> government as
> close to the local people as possible."
>
> Shea is a private attorney who serves with the Alliance
> Defense Fund, a
> nationwide network of about 1,000 attorneys who work
> pro-bono. As a
> counter to the ACLU, the alliance seeks to protect and
> defend religious
> liberty, the sanctity of life and traditional family
> values.
>
> Republican state Rep. Judy Burges, the primary sponsor of
> the
> sovereignty resolution in the Arizona House, told WND the
> federal
> government "has been trouncing on our constitutional
> rights."
>
> "The real turning point for me was the Real ID act,
> which involved both
> a violation of the Fourth Amendments rights against the
> illegal searches
> and seizures and the Tenth Amendment," she said.
>
> Burges told WND she is concerned that the overreaching of
> federal powers
> could lead to new legislation aimed at confiscating weapons
> from
> citizens or encoding ammunition.
>
> "The Real ID Act was so broadly written that we are
> afraid that it
> involves the potential for "mission-creep," that
> could easily involve
> confiscation of firearms and violations of the Second
> Amendment," she said.
>
> Burges said she has been surprised at the number of e-mails
> she has
> received in support of the sovereignty measure.
>
> "We are a sovereign state in Arizona, not a branch of
> the federal
> government, and we need to be treated as such, she
> insisted.
>
>
> --
> "Nothing in this world can take the place of
> persistence. Talent will
> not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with
> talent. Genius
> will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education
> will not; the
> world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
> determination alone
> are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved
> and always will solve
> the problems of the human race"
>
> ~ Calvin Coolidge
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