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  • From: rayzentz AT aim.com
  • To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Vegetarian diet was Fennel
  • Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:23:14 -0500

I remember hearing this discussed, but I still recommend the book "Eat Right
for your Type", by Dr. Joseph D'Adamo.?? His theories are fascinating, and
while some critics call it bunk, it made a lot of sense to me.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: eureka AT hctc.net
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Vegetarian diet was Fennel



Ray, I encourage everyone to eat what's best for them.
Some folks, like you and I, may have already discovered
this even though we eat differently. But I think there's a
lot of unhealthy people out there eating junk who still
need to discover a healthier way of life. I don't judge
people who choose to eat meat and respect what all the
homestead folks are doing raising their own meat or
supplementing with hunting. I may end up doing this
someday for my dogs and cats, who, by the way, aren't
subjected to vegetarian diets. I cook turkey for them
using the Pitcairn dog recipes, and buy dried food for the
cats. Finicky guest are always welcome to eat the with the
dogs instead <g>.

I think compared to most vegetarians, I need a higher
amount of protein in my diet. So I'm kind of a carnivorous
vegetarian. And if you consider I am a botanist eating
plants, you will see we really aren't that different <g>

--Sage

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:15:01 -0500
rayzentz AT aim.com wrote:
>
> I am the last one to criticise the dietary choices and
>needs of people, whether they are because of health
>issues, or personal preferences. I haven't followed this
>earlier part of the thread, but for me, I prefer most of
>my veggies processed...? In other words, I AM a carnivore
>
>
>
> Veggies are food..., for food.
>
> Unlike you, Sage, I actually have a more difficult time
>with high vegetable meals.?? I do like an occasional
>salad, and corn and carrots, and I have learned to eat
>broccoli, but a lot of other greens just run right on
>through.?? Since developing diabetes, Which I control
>through diet, I have cut down on breads and other grain
>based foods, and eat more of the greens that I can
>tolerate, but I am, and ever will be, a "meatasaurus"
>
> Ray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: eureka AT hctc.net
> To: bobford79 AT yahoo.com; homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:33 am
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Vegetarian diet was Fennel
>
>
>
>
> Bob, I've been a vegetarian almost my ent
ire life, from
> the early beginings of spitting out Gerber baby meat
> through discovering in an allergy test at age 20 I was
> allergic to all meat except turkey. I already new I was
> deathly allergic to seafood and shellfish growing up
>from
> some traumatic eating experiences. I have not eaten any
> meat in thirty years, when I gave up turkey. I do eat
>eggs
> (that's why we raise chickens) and dairy. I'm called a
> lacto-ovo vegetarian.
>
> Dairy tends to congest me, so I try to limit it in
> quantity, but being married to a Cheesehead, that's
>nearly
> impossible <g>
>
> There are a lot of misconceptions about vegetarianism.
> 1. We are rabbits: The worst is when I go to long
> conferences and by checking "vegetarian option" this
>means
> I will be trying to beat everyone else to the cheese
>cube
> platter and living on salads like a bunny, basically
> starving.
>
> 2. We can't tolerate spices: Another one is vegetarians
> must like bland food (not true!). I remember a
> particularly embarrasing American Airlines dinner flight
> (back when they still served food) and my "vegetarian
> option" was brought out in a special silver chaffing
>dish
> like I was the Queen of England, and ever eye was on me.
> Taking the lid off, I discovered it to be a glump of
> steamed brown rice and a glump of steamed barley with
> nothing else! (I had the feeling this was the meal you
>got
> if you checked diabetic, salt-free, Kosher, whatever).
> Everyone else was eating spagetti & meatballs, salad,
>and
> peanut butter cookies. I could've eaten this sans
> meatballs. So many people felt sorry for me they started
> passing me parts of their food.
>
> 3: Since we don't eat meat, we must not need protien:
> Wrong! We get hungry just like everyone else. Getting
> enough protein is very important.
>
> I don't know what kind of vegetarian food you've tried
> that didn't taste good. I am considered by all my
>friends
> as one of the best cooks they know, and I've followed
> recipes for
so many years I can wing it intuitively. My
> most favorite coo
> kbooks (all from famous vegetarian
> restuarnts) are:
>
> Moosewood Cookbook (early hippie, easy to make, kind of
> heavy on the diary but tasty stuff)
> New Recipes from the Moosewood Restaurant (focuses on
> different ethnic cuisine recipes)
>Field of Greens (One of the best, more involved, but
> everything delicious!)
> Millenium Cookbook (vegan upscale, very involved, but
> delicious and worth it--I use this for special dinners
> where I can spend a day in preparation)
>
>For protein, I either use complimentary combinations of
> grains and legumes based on Recipes for a Small Planet
> (boring recipes, but good nutrition ideas) or buy the
> following (mostly found in the frozen food section/cool
> dairy) which are lower in fat and cholesterol than meat:
>
> Quorn www.quorn.com (my favorite, made from mycoprotein
> ie. fungus and tastes like chicken-patties, cutlets,
> tenders)
> Morningstar Farms www.seeveggiesdifferently.com (steak
> strips (husband's favorite), chicken strips, sausage
> patties, links, fake bacon, bratworst and Italian
> sausages)
> Boca www.bocaburger.com (most meatlike burgers)
> LightLife
> http://www.lightlife.com/product_category.jsp?c=deli
> (pepperoni, turkey, balogna, ham lunchmeat)
> White Wave
>http://www.tofutown.net/index.php?sid=Products
> (wheat meat, tempe, seitan, baked tofu, tofu)
>
> The main thing to know about veggie protein is most of
>it
> is already cooked and just needs reheating, overcooking
>it
> turns into rubber, so I add it last instead of first in
> recipes like stews, gumbo, etc.
>
> There is *nothing* bland in most vegetarian's diets.
>Hope
> this helps you explore. We priced it out once and the
> veggie protein costs the same as meat. But check out the
> health stats on the websites and you can see the
>benefits.
>
> --Sage
> Way Out in Texas
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:19:34 -0800 (PST)
> bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com> wrote:
>> If you don't mind
; are you complete vegetarian? do you
>>eat fish? or cheese?. I really need to move away from
>>red meat. Most vegetarian foods (except for fresh
>>produce) don't taste good
> , in my experience ......bobford
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