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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

You have the same approach on these matters as I do; Lynn.  Fundamentalist 
Christians don't bother me; crazy Jews or Muslims don't bother me; even the 
few weirdo Buddhists who think I shouldn't kill a roach don't bother me.   As 
long as they don't want to kill me 

Most of the best people I know are fundamentalist in their beliefs, either 
religious or worldview. That's okay as long as I'm not forced to agree or 
even pretend I agree.  As long as I can smile, act respectful, and then 
ignore, I'm fine.  Many of the people who believe the way I believe are 
jerks. Nothing as more agitating-ly boring than listening to a new atheist 
harping the superiority of atheism.

I didn't listen to the tapes.  A lot of that kind of rhetoric from religious 
(supposed) zealots is just for show, anyway.  Look at Obama's preacher-man 
who claims to detest white america.  If you look at his retirement plans, all 
he ever really wanted was to be a white american.

demagoguery should be sometimes respected, but generally ignored, no matter 
the source. ....bobford


--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Assorted things
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:19 AM
> Bev; have you actually watched the youtube videos? I just
> watched over 
> an hour of Dr. Khalid al-Mansour's videos from youtube.
> He's pro-Islam, 
> but I didn't see ANYTHING that I found offensive or
> hateful, unless 
> questioning Christian ideas (in a respectful,
> non-derogatory way) is 
> hateful. He has a lot of strong beliefs, like believing
> that black 
> people are still oppressed because slavery had such a
> serious 
> psychological effect. He's anti-Israel and doesn't
> care much for 
> Christianity, but as far a I can see, not violently so...he
> in fact 
> seems to favor diplomacy in general. He rails against
> American 
> "Christian" aggression. He has some anger, about
> everything from the 
> Crusades, to slavery, to invading Iraq, and sees it all as
> a Christian 
> war against Islam. He believes the solution is education,
> diplomacy, and 
> 'brothers' helping each other. His Thinking out
> Loud is a good summary 
> of his views (but the video itself is poorly done).
> 
> His religious views (and I listened to MOST of the Birth
> and Death of 
> Christianity) are as annoying to me as listening to a
> Creationist for an 
> hour, but not any more threatening or radical. The fact
> that he is proud 
> to be Muslim and trying to help blacks doesn't offend
> me.
> 
> Lynn Wigglesworth
> 
> EarthNSky wrote:
> > 
> > Lynn Wigglesworth wrote:
> >> This is a bio I found for Al Mansour (from the
> African Venture Partner's 
> >> website). He doesn't sound like a liability to
> have on one's side:
> >>
> > 
> > Until you watch his Youtube videos and read some of
> the hate he supports 
> > with all of that clout.
> > 
> > 
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