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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

One of my brothers has a (approx. 100 lb) Pit bull, that, though old, still 
acts like a loveable puppy.  My brother says it is the worst watch dog , 
ever.  
I have seen it jump in my brother's lap in the Lazboy, not realizing its size.

That being said I do not have the personality to handle a large pit bull, or 
a rottie,, or even a doberman.  A german shephard will protect --even bite; 
but still easy enough for the average person that hasn't practiced training 
large dogs to handle.  And I am not a small man.

If someone wants a working dog that will also be protective and that someone 
has never had a big, potentially agressive, dog.  I wouldn't start with a 
rottie.  Dogs live a very long time, and deserve owners who can 
handle their both their strengths and  and their weaknesses (liabilities) 
...bobford


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com> wrote:

> From: rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Dog
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:01 PM
> Loki's sire weighed over 220 pounds.   Biggest dog I
> have EVER seen.   
> I know there are bigger breeds, but he topped the list I
> have ever come 
> in contact with myself.   Her dam was more
> "normal", only 140.   Loki 
> died before full growth, but we were anticipating between
> 170-180.
> 
> Great Intimidation factor...  ;-)
> 
> She was as gentle as could be around our , and other, kids,
> though.
> 
> She even befriended a little stray kitten we brought home. 
>  It was 
> right out of the cartoons..., you know, the big bulldog
> that let the 
> little kitten sleep on him, and dig her claws in.
> 
> Good memories...
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Dog
> 
> 
> 
> One of my pet peeves <g>  Rotties aren't
> aggressive dogs.  Rottie "can 
> be"
> aggressive.  Certain bloodlines have become aggressive due
> to retards,
> mainly gutless males who pump up their egos by having
> "bad" dogs, but 
> in the
> main, they aren't aggressive.
> 
> They are BIG.  However, again, the problem isn't the
> dog, it is the 
> people
> who own them.
> 
> Sheesh, I think people ought to have to take a test to own
> an animal!  
> Of
> course, most of the folks who shouldn't have animals
> shouldn't have 
> kids
> either and they do both!
> 
> Lynda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob ford" <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
> 
> 
> > Just my opinion, but unless a person is very handy
> with large dogs, a 
> 150
> > lb canine ,bred to be agressive, is too much about
> which to worry.
> >
> > My 12 pound terrier will get so upset when the mail
> lady comes by, 
> that
> > she will hurl her body against the front door; And she
> went through
> > obedience claases until she was kicked out for
> attacking a rottie pup
> > eight times her size..
> >
> > People like Moon, Bev, etc, who have owned large dogs
> know what to 
> expect,
> > and know when they have a slap crazy dog.  I would not
> own a dog that
> > weighed more than 1/2 my weight; not even a sweetie
> like a st.bernard 
> ..
> > My neighbor had an Austrailian Shephard (inside/ yard
> dog , in the 
> city).
> >
> > I'm not quite clear how 'mean' you want
> the dog, but that A.S. was
> > protective, and was also the most intelligent dog I
> have ever ,
> > personally, seen. ....bobford
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Roy Morgan
> <k1lky AT earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Roy Morgan <k1lky AT earthlink.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Dog
> >> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 8:52 AM
> >> [Not from Roy]
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ray. I have been playing around with the
> idea of
> >> getting an
> >> Anatolian from a man I know in Virginia who makes
> produces
> >> really,
> >> really nice dogs..(a sheepman, he also does BCs),
> but
> >> we've been so
> >> busy trying to get settled I put it on the back
> burner. I
> >> might maybe
> >> expand my thinking a little. I know for sure I
> don't
> >> want the other
> >> traditional guard dogs, like a Pyrenees, I'd
> never
> >> really thought of a
> >> Rottie that way. I might have to ask around my
> sheep
> >> friends a little
> >> more and see if anyone else has had experience in
> that
> >> direction, too.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Moon
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:38 AM, rayzentz AT aim.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > on livestock.   While I have not owned stock,
> I did
> >> have Loki with me
> >> > on ranches and such.   They are also herders,
> but not
> >> to the extreme
> >> > of
> >> > some breeds.   They herd by knocking, which
> sometimes
> >> contributes to
> >> > the fear.   When I would run and play with
> her, Loki
> >> would often knock
> >> > me in the direction she wanted me to go.  
> When you
> >> have a 150 pound
> >> > dog knocking into you, you do have a
> tendancey to go
> >> her
> >> > direction   ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > She never did that with the little ones,
> though.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Gene GeRue
> <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
> >> > To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> > Sent: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 6:37 am
> >> > Subject: Re: [Homestead] Homestead Dog
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My daughter has two Rottweilers and loves
> them.
> >> >
> >> > But there is a caution on Rottweilers: these
> are
> >> powerful dogs that
> >> > can be dangerous to people and other pets. In
> the last
> >> year I have
> >> > heard of incidents that cause me to say that
> I would
> >> never get such
> >> > dogs except as puppies. Both incidents were
> dogs
> >> obtained as adults.
> >> > The results were ugly. In both cases the
> owners had to
> >> put them down.
> >> >
> >> > I've gotten dogs as adults and pups. Pups
> are the
> >> way to go. I have
> >> > empathy for dogs in pounds and shelters and
> newspaper
> >> ads where the
> >> > owners want to give them away. But I will
> only bring a
> >> pup into our
> >> > family.
> >> >
> >> > With an adult dog you never know for sure
> what bad
> >> habits or
> >> > temperament traits they possess.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Oct 6, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Roy Morgan wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> [Not from Roy]
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh OH...yup, big ol' second on
> >> Rotties...I've loved the few I've had
> >> >> contact with. How are they with
> livestock, any
> >> idea?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:54 AM,
> rayzentz AT aim.com
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I haven't heard this mentioned.  
> I have
> >> owned Rottweilers.   Well,
> >> >>> trained, in my opinion, nothing
> better.   When
> >> living in MT, our
> >> >>> first
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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