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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Your point is slightly different than mine.  I don't know what to believe 
about the subject itself; I just become curious when someone tells me I 
shouldn't listen to opposong views.  To me that is the same as banning books. 
 that makes me want to buy and read the book, now

There is a book called The Jewel Of Medina, that has just been published but 
Random House will not publish it in America because of political pressure.  
Now, I want to read that book.

When I first started reading the 'Beats',  Allen Ginsburg, William Burroughs, 
etc., was because I was told they were books I shouldn't read.  

Heck, the first time I remeber wanting to look at a picture of a scantily 
clad girl in a book was because someone told me not to look at the scantily 
clad girls (actually it was a mag., Nat'l Geo.).

I do think that most scientists agree on the subject, itself.  I just don't 
know why they are afraid of legitamite scientific dissent.  That moves ther 
subject away from science, into politics....bobford


--- On Sun, 9/28/08, rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com> wrote:

> From: rayzentz AT aim.com <rayzentz AT aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] BBC -glbl wrmg-propaganda investigation
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 7:54 AM
> I don't presume to speak for the good lord.   However,
> there is a 
> teacher at my school that shows it every semester, and
> presents it as 
> incontestable TRUTH, which it is not.   Debate is good, but
> when one 
> side presents outright lies as truth, makes it hard for me
> to support, 
> as well.
> 
> Incidentally, before anyone rips my head off, I don't
> disagree that 
> climate change is happening, just the degree that it is
> being caused by 
> us.
> 
> ray
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry B <liberty AT kaballero.com>
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:22 pm
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] BBC -glbl wrmg-propaganda
> investigation
> 
> 
> 
> bob ford wrote:
> > I realize that some people are fervent believers in
> man-made global 
> warming
> apocalypse.  I'm not stating an opinion one way or the
> other, I don't 
> have an
> opinion about the issue itself; I don't know enough
> fact upon which to 
> base an
> opinion. I don't deny or accept, I just don't know.
> >
> > But, when all debate is shut down, by governmental or
> private powers; 
> the
> skeptic in me asks; why are they so afraid of the debate.
> >
> > 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> > BBC investigated after peer says climate change
> programme was biased
> 'one-sided polemic'
> >
> > By Tamara Cohen
> > Last updated at 2:54 AM on 27th September 2008
> >
> >
> > 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1063110/BBC-investigated-peer-says-climate-change-pro
> gramme-biased-sided-polemic.html
> >
> --------------------
> With the stakes being so utterly high, you are right. Why
> would someone
> like "Lord Monckton [play] ... a key role in a legal
> challenge heard in
> the High Court in October 2007 in an effort to prevent Al
> Gore’s film 
> on
> global warming, An Inconvenient Truth, from being shown in
> English
> schools?" I wondered the same thing.
> 
> Jerry B
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