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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Arg!  This is clearly representative of what is wrong with the voters in 
this country. <g>

First, let me interject, I'm not pro-Obama.  Sheesh, I started the first 
round of hair pulling and crying by the Obamanistas.  So, I don't belong to 
that 2/3s.

Second, interesting that you should bring up 2/3s.  It takes a 2/3s vote to 
pass a bill in either the House or the Senate.  The Dems do NOT have a 
voting majority.  Therefore, they do NOT "control it all" nor will they 
"control it all" if Teflon gets elected.

Now, let's keep the history accurate.  I hate to upset the ol' Repub 
thinking but y'all do know and understand that ol' Read My Lips and Billy 
Boy were and are thick as thieves and have been for decades?  Y'all do 
realise that about half the things that Billy Boy gets credited with were 
begun by ol' Read My Lips and Billy Boy just continued?  China being one of 
them and "playing" with Korea being the other.  Not to mention that NCLB 
isn't a brain fart thought up by Dumbya but rather the culmination of 
something begun by ol' Read My Lips, and continued by Billy Boy?  Just like 
NAFTA and half a dozen other things.

Lynda, who learned a LONG time ago that one should either grow a thick hide 
or get the hay you off the net!  Folks can't play whack-a-mole if the mole 
whacks back <g>
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Akka Homestead" <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>

Yes, it is interesting. Of the 25 or so regular posters, I'm guessing that 
2/3's or more are supporting Obama, something I still can't quite get warm 
and fuzzy with. These are people I respect and admire and have come to think 
of as family(you, Moon, and a host of others), so if they are strongly 
committed to something, I feel like I have to examine why, analyze and 
re-analyze what it is and look for that 'golden something' that I am 
apparently missing. These insights will be important later when he becomes 
president.

Some Democrats (and notice that I give you the respect of calling you 
Democrats instead of liberals or some other name)on this list were so 
excited and hopeful when the party took control of Congress a few years ago. 
It was all about hope and change. Here we are two years later and I don't 
see much difference. It has been business as usual. I know you will say that 
Bush has thwarted this or that, but that only flies so far.
I kind of hope Obama is elected. Then the Dems can control it all. Then, the 
excuse will be they are dealing with the Bush war debt legacy. It's the 
standard excuse. Bush dealt with the Clinton legacy, selling our technology 
to the North Koreans and others...

I am sorry if my questioning seems to be attacking Obama, however, I won't 
bend over backwards to apologize because for YEARS, literally years, I have 
listened to and read and deleted the political rants and arguments on this 
list. I like throwing things out there to get y'all opinion on it. I have 
been silent until this last year or so about my own opinions. I have tried 
to stay out of things-tried to veer the conversations back to homesteading 
topics, etc. But for whatever reason, some kind of switch inside of me has 
turned on and I have started joining the fray. I am learning about all kinds 
of stuff that I could not have accessed alone through Googling. Each one of 
you brings me a piece of the puzzle. If you each researched one thing, I get 
25 things to think about, and I do, very seriously. The recent difference is 
that now I am talking and questioning, too. Perhaps it has rocked the boat a 
bit. This is the second time recently
that I felt personally insulted, maybe not exactly bullied, but definitely 
attacked. Since I am in the minority, apparently, I feel as though some are 
playing whack a mole and trying to hammer me back down into silence. I may 
have committed the cardinal sin and sided with Bush on something, who knows. 
;)
You should know that I just quit my job because I got tired of being that 
freakin' mole that got whacked, so I did a bit of whacking back before I 
left. I may not be as smart as some of you are-I may not be as well read or 
as well studied-or as well educated, but I do have an opinion as well as a 
pretty good intuition, and I will be expressing that because I can. I think 
that I have generally been respectful of the opinions of others and would 
ask the same courtesy.

> I remember people accusing others of "Bush Bashing" on this list a few
> years ago. All the Bush supporters would try to shout down any post
> that disagreed with the illegitimate president and his illegitimate
> war.

I believe I was a Bush supporter in that debacle. I'll fess up to it. I 
don't think I ever demeaned anyone for bashing bush though. In my own 
defense, that was before I learned what I know today about electronic 
voting. This race is going to be close, and apparently the powers that be 
like Obama this time around, so I predict problems this time in Republican 
states..and this time, the chips will fall and the Dems will collect them.



> Now with the Obama candidacy, if someone suggests that we look at
> issues rather than rumors, it's shouting down. Or its him pulling the
> race card.

Issues, issues, issues...Obama himself hasn't said anything of real 
substance on the 'issues'. ;) Just yanking your chain, Rob, just yankin' the 
chain. lol
Dammit. I knew it would get me...just as soon as I said I am endowed, here, 
I have to be blonde and ask what "shouting down" means. I assume belittling, 
but meaning doesn't fit in the sentence. Don did not belittle anyone, he 
just suggested we talk about issues, therefore I am confused. I also don't 
have a clue as to how the last race card sentence relates to the previous 
sentence. You lost this blonde on that whole quote there.


> I have a freaky theory that all of the ardent Bush supporters that
> have become so silent as of late are now secretly dreaming up Obama
> rumors and passing them around.

Who here is an ardent Bush supporter that is currently silent?
I think most, at best, are like me in that while we may not agree with some 
of the stuff he has done, we are still hunkered down, respectfully holding 
our collective breaths until the mob mentality of Bush bashing wanes and 
until he turns over the football.
What you say about people making up rumors is pretty malicious to accuse 
someone of, don't you think?

Akka B




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