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- From: DSanner106 AT aol.com
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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:54:50 EDT
Obama has invited this inspection of his pastor by naming him as his mentor,
asking him
to introduce him at speeches, having him write the introduction to his
auto-biography and saying his exposure to the church, this particular
church,helped form him into the man he is today. The fact that this political
message is
what is preached at the church his is telling and should be looked at.
I certainly remember many snippets of Jerry Falwell sermons being played on
the news as
well as others. These were tied randomly to the Republicans even though he
had not been
the 20 year personal pastor to any of the Rep politicians at the time. I
hate the political talk
of Wright, Falwell and any others, and think separation of church and state
should mean
exactly that. I know that I have NEVER heard any political messages in my
church, my ministers
have made it a point to not inject politics into their sermons. I also
attended traditionally black
churchs in Detroit and Atlanta for over 20 years and didn't hear Wright's
rhetoric. This does not
represent mainstream black churches, just the liberation churches.
Obama did say he did not hear and was not present for any of the sermons on
the dvd's that have been shown, and had never heard anything similar. Yes he
also said he had not heard racist or anti american material.
Drew
In a message dated 4/27/2008 5:33:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
waltonrp AT gmail.com writes:
Somehow they found their way to the news and I can't ever remember
hearing snippets from sermons of a candidates pastor on the nightly
news. Funny also that the religious right has been sort of quiet on
this one. I know for a fact that preaching from the pulpit and damning
America is something that goes on there on a common basis.
I think that when Obama stated that he has not heard racist and
anti-American talk from Wright, he is not saying he did not hear these
sermons. The sermons just aren't what they are trying to make them. I
basically agree with them.
For instance, God damn America. If you listen to the entire paragraph,
not even the entire sermon, is comparing America to the Roman and
British Empire. He says that America will be damned for its behavior.
The chicken coming home to roost... he states that we gained this
country by terrorizing Indians, enslaving blacks, etc. When 911
happened, the "chickens came home to roost".
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
DSanner106, 04/27/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion, Robert Walton, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
DSanner106, 04/27/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion, Robert Walton, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Clansgian, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Robert Walton, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
EarthNSky, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Lynda, 04/28/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Robert Walton, 04/28/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion, Lynda, 04/28/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Robert Walton, 04/28/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Lynda, 04/28/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Lynda, 04/28/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion, Robert Walton, 04/28/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
EarthNSky, 04/27/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion,
Robert Walton, 04/27/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Obama and religion, Clansgian, 04/27/2008
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