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["Lynda" <lurine AT softcom.net>]

Why?  Do you seriously think the rest of the world cares about what happened 
1600s, 1700s and 1800s as regards slavery in this country?  They all had 
slavery also.

They don't care what happened in the past.  What they are interested in is 
the here and how.  What is happening to THEM right now.  What is happening 
in Iraq, right now!

They want to know how much money they can get out of the U.S.  How much 
"aid" they will get.  If something can or will be done about places like 
Darfur.

They aren't interested in this self-flagulation that so many folks here 
indulge in.

I'm out of sympathy for all that which should be quite plain from my last 
statement or was I too circumspect.  If so, let me rephrase what I said.

There are FAR more years of slavery, genocide and racism practiced against 
American Indians.  Everyone pussy foots around making sure they are 
ooooohhhhhh so careful about what they say that might be construed as racist 
when it comes to black but it is perfectly acceptable to make racist 
statements against American Indians.  They pussy foot around about making 
anything that might be considered a prejudicial statement against the Jews 
but lamblast a man over being Mormon and that's o.k.  It is o.k. to slam 
anyone and everyone who is Muslim  If someone is gay it is o.k. to make 
jokes.  If someone is [fill in the blank] it is o.k. but heaven forbid if 
someone says something that just might vaguely be considered 
racist/prejudicial when it comes to blacks and Jews.  HELLO, it isn't a 
black and white issue.  And it isn't always and only about the Jews.

Until the rules apply across the board, I'm really not interested in the 
supposed "soul cleansing."

BTW, "we" haven't done anything.  Individuals did things and some things 
were done by the government or allowed by the government.  Last time I 
looked, my family didn't do any of those things and, in fact, was on the 
receiving end.  I have absolutely no intention of wearing a hair shirt 
because of the acts of others!

I could have sat on the Rez or stayed in the ghetto and whined and held my 
hand out of welfare.  I didn't!  I own my land because I worked for it.  I 
did all the "in" things and bought the big screen t.v. and the fancy boat 
and the fancy new cars and all that.  DH and I worked and earned those 
things.  No one gave us anything.

So, no, I'm not arguing about what *some* have done.  I'm arguing against 
the hair shirt.  Find me a single living person who was a slave and I'd be 
happy to have some reparations made to THEM!  Otherwise, everyone's on their 
own and needs to get over it!

Lynda
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>


> I think electing Barak Obama has the capacity to send a message to the
> rest of the world that what we have done is not right, and we are
> going to try to change it, even though our wheels are grinding much
> too slowly, especially when compared to Bush McLight.
>
> We aren't going to argue that what we've done is ok, are you? Because
> I don't want to have that discussion right here and right now, there's
> no way I can keep that light. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to
> resist swearing like a drunken sailor. I might shock someone. : )
>
>
> Celia
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Lynda wrote:
>
> > Why would electing a half white man who has had all the privileges
> > of white
> > men be mea culpa.  You'd have to elect Sharptan or Farrakhan to have
> > that be
> > more than smoke and mirrors.
> >
> > AND, I posit that you need to elect a "red" woman for it to be true
> > mea
> > culpa.
> >
> > Lynda
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <paxamicus AT earthlink.net>
>
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