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Your crassness(spelled correctly) is forgiven, in fact, apology is not 
necessary.   I merely wish to point out that I am open to other ideas.   My 
experience was publicv school was positive, and of benefit to me.    I do not 
say it is perfect for everyone.   In fact, I support homeschooling, when it 
is actually being done.   In general, the only problem I have with 
homeschooled children is the lack of social skills demonstrated by many (not 
all) I have known.   I have voiced this before, and have had many of you tell 
me that this is irrelevant.   I, however, disagree, because despite the best 
efforts of many on this list, we are inextricably connected one to another in 
our society, and, pending the total destruction of our society as we know it 
(which is not outside the realm of possibility), we will continue to be so.
 
I might add that I am a teacher, and my viewpoint is not necessarily popular 
among my peers.   I feel that as the homeschool movement increases, and the 
successes increase, that there will be forced upon the public school system 
changes that will be of benefit to all.
 
Ray
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Schools



> I agree with your sentiments.   I also am a product of Public Schooling, 
> but feel that I am not the brainwashed product of the same.  


Please try to excuse my crasness, Ray, but you and Gloria (with whose 
sentiments you are agreeing) clearly demonstrate the sort of brainwashing I'm 
refering to.

You view your posiive experiences in school in music and such as something 
you would not, could not, have otherwise had.  If I had taken a keen interest 
in 

music performance when I was in elemenatary or (what at the time was) junior 
high school, the ONLY outlet would have been a school music program of some 
sort. The ONLY one.

But expand your scope of this a little broader for the moment and realize 
that's because all oportunities for such things were gathered up and invested 
in 

the school systems and made artificially unavailable otherwise.  Can you 
begin 
to see where I get the 'break you legs, give you crutches, and take credit 
for your being able to walk' thing?

Think back on your governent school experience.  Suppose instead of music it 
had been fine metal working.  Did the schools provide, could the schools have 
provided, a way for you to get the same start as a metalworker as they did 
for 
your music.  No,  Shop class wouldn't have done it.  I could come up with a 
list of 500 things without putting a lot of effort into it that you would 
have 
had no potential to gain insight and experience into because you were 
confined 
in a school and your list of possible interest were tiny.

Basketball, you say?  Suppose you were in a very small schools sytem and your 
interest was scocer, chess, archery, etc.  Would you have had opportunity to 
pursue those just as you did basketball?

I myself when I was in jr high developed a keen interest in lutherie.  Can 
you imagine the potential for developing that interest and skill within the 
parameter of government school in the 50's and 60's.

Yes, of course you would not have had the opportunity for music outside of 
government schools.  That's what they were designed to do, take away the 
great 
vast universe of choices available to you and replace it with a tiny few 
choices and brainwash you to the extent that you somehow imagine that the 
government 
schools functioned to provide you with the meager choices rather than take 
way all your other vast array of choices.

A goldsmith I know does very good work and is very successful at it.  He 
learned his craft in prison.  Does it follow that going to prison in and of 
itself 
is a good thing?
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