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["Toni Hawryluk" <tonihawr AT msn.com>]

> But for a guy to cut and run who has never seen or experienced combat is 
> absolutely incomprehensible.

Not at all. It's called cowardice.

Toni
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Gene asked :

> Can we still write in Mickey Mouse?

Not in Washington State - the 'fearless leaders'
here have changed the way to vote.  You *must*
choose a part *first*. *Then* you get to choose
for whom you will vote. And if you do pick a non-
party "offering" after you choose a *party*, that 
portion of your votes 

*will be disqualified*.

Does *that* stick in your craw ?

Toni
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excerpts : (taken out of context ? HELL YES !!)
"Now the government has taken on a new look with its bulging budgets and 
swollen labor force." 
(more people getting paid to *produce* nothing)

"The government's reach lengthened, too, as it took on new authority to keep 
tabs on people..."
"...USA Patriot Act, which gave the government broad new powers to monitor 
citizens."
(American Big Brother)

"...contractors have also taken a larger share of the work."
(we don't vote for contractors.  Or do we .... ?)

''It's a much more secretive government ... more hierarchical."
(head honchos in hierarchies - "...power corrupts....")

http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap09-11-093613.asp?t=apnew&vts=91120040943<http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap09-11-093613.asp?t=apnew&vts=91120040943>

      In wake of Sept. 11 attacks, government undergoes massive 
reorganization 
     
            By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH
            ASSOCIATED PRESS 
     
     
      WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 - The notion that the era of big government was 
over also perished in the Sept. 11 attacks. 
             Out of the rubble came an expanded, reshuffled and more powerful 
government, starting with the creation of the third largest department in 
Washington - Homeland Security - and now a massive reorganization of 
intelligence services. 


             The government's reach lengthened, too, as it took on new 
authority to keep tabs on people in the name of fighting terrorism. 
             Downsizing government had been the fashion in both parties - 
Republicans were naturally that way, but even many Democrats wanted to get 
with the program. That ended three years ago. Now the government has taken on 
a new look with its bulging budgets and swollen labor force. 
             ''What you have today is probably something that I don't think 
any conservative Republican in the past would have dreamed possible and that 
is ... conservative big government,'' said Leon Panetta, budget director and 
chief of staff under former President Clinton. ''Most old-time Republicans 
are probably turning over in their graves.'' 
             The federal domestic work force grew by 80,000 in three years, 
reaching 1.8 million in September 2003. 
             Out went the Immigration and Naturalization Service, in came the 
Homeland Security Department, Transportation Security Administration, Threat 
Integration Center and measures such as the USA Patriot Act, which gave the 
government broad new powers to monitor citizens. The fledgling transportation 
security agency had 11 employees six months after the attacks; it has 45,000 
airport screeners now. 
             Some government-watchers say the machine of democracy had needed 
major greasing even before that day when terrorists crashed planes into the 
World Trade Center, Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania; it took the attacks 
to make changes happen. 
             ''We're in a moment in history where reorganization is the 
answer to a set of problems that policy makers care about - how to educate 
children, how to protect the water supply,'' said Paul Light, professor of 
public service at New York University. 
             ''The federal government is kind of like kudzu. Every once in a 
while you've got to go in, do some hacking away, clean things up and be quite 
deliberate about it.'' 
             Said Panetta: ''With a crisis, you can make things happen. It's 
an unfortunate commentary on the way we do business.'' 
             Based at the White House in its earliest days, Homeland Security 
took on a new form in March 2003 when 22 federal agencies merged into a 
single terrorism-fighting department. 
             With Tom Ridge at the reins, 170,000 employees began their work 
in the department, bringing with them experience from other agencies with 
tasks that were once seen as unrelated, now joined in the common denominator 
of the war against terrorism. 
             The Coast Guard, Secret Service and Customs Service were folded 
into Homeland Security. The INS was scrapped and broken into three parts, all 
absorbed by Homeland Security. 
             Altogether, it was the largest reorganization of U.S. government 
since the late 1940s, when the Defense Department was established, experts 
say. Apart from new and reworked agencies, contractors have also taken a 
larger share of the work. 
             Along with bureaucracy, power has shifted, says Gary Bass, 
executive director of OMB Watch, a group that monitors the budget and 
regulatory matters. 
             ''It is more centralized in the context of the White House 
making more decisions,'' he said. ''It's a much more secretive government ... 
more hierarchical. That's a vast change.'' 
             The Defense Department creation in the late 1940s was part of a 
trend toward mergers - another was the creation of the Health, Education and 
Welfare Department in the early 1950s. Later, President Nixon formed the 
Environmental Protection Agency, pulling together air- and water-quality 
units from elsewhere in government. 
             ''What Congress put together in the 1950s, Congress started to 
take apart in the late 1970s,'' Light said. Health and welfare went into the 
Health and Human Services Department; education got a department of its own. 
             In 1996, Clinton declared ''the era of big government is over.'' 
It wasn't, even though he'd managed to trim the federal work force in his 
time. 
             ''Reorganizations are back,'' Light said, ''and big government 
never really went away.'' 
      <> 
     
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