Kata Markon

["Phil Campbell" <philcam AT tpg.com.au>]

Again, why are you insisting that he's talking about the RETURN of the Son
of Man to EARTH? The Son of Man will come in the clouds TO THE HEAVENLY
THRONE. I think he DID that.

Phil Campbell
Mitchelton Presbyterian Church
Queensland Australia

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To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2001 10:37 pm
Subject: [gmark] Re: Mark 13.30 "tauta panta"& "hey genea"


> Larry,
>
> What you presented does seem to be the straightforward interpretation of
the
> text. Which is also the problem
>
> The immanancy of the return of the Son of Man is as immanent as summer to
the
> budding fig tree (which blooms in late spring).
>
> But all of the things described in 13.5-23 had occurred in the first
century,
> yet the return of the Son of Man, as written about in vs 24-27, did not
occur
> in the first century. Yet, the solemnity of the assurance in v.30 negates
>
> making the prediction an error.
>
> So there is a problem...
>
> In a message dated 1/3/01 6:04:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> hurtadol AT div.ed.ac.uk writes:
>
> >
> >  It is worth noting that the "ta panta" of Mark 13:30 probably relates
> >  back to the initial ref to "ta panta" in 13:4, which refers to the
> >  destruction of the temple, alluded to again in 13:29 "tauta".
> >  Moreover, *the* fig tree of 13:28 is likely the Markan fig tree of
> >  11:13-14, which is in Mark sandwiched with the incident in the
> >  temple in chap. 11.
> >  So, 13:30 may mean that "all things" involving the destruction of
> >  the temple will happen "in this generation".  The return of the Son
> >  of Man is placed after "these things" (13:29) and after the
> >  tribulation of the temple's destruction (13:24).
> >  Larry Hurtado
> >
>
>
>
> Peace to you,
> Harry Staiti
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