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  • From: "George W. Young" <gwyoung AT morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
  • To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Mark 13.30 "tauta panta"& "hey genea"
  • Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:30:14 -0330


Has anyone suggested that maybe Mark meant THAT generation? That is, the
same generation who heard Jesus speak these words? Isn't this a much more
plausible interpretation? I believe in every other instance in GMark where
Jesus speaks of "this generation," it invariably refers to the one
contemporaneous with himself.

George W. Young, PhD
Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies
Queen's College
St. John's, NF
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email: gwyoung AT morgan.ucs.mun.ca
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Campbell" <philcam AT tpg.com.au>
To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>

Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 9:52 PM
Subject: [gmark] Re: Mark 13.30 "tauta panta"& "hey genea"


> The disciples launch Mark 13 with the question, when will these things
> happen (the destruction of the temple), and WHAT WILL BE THE SIGN that it
> will happen. Jesus goes on to answer both questions. And the SIGN he gives
> is his own death and resurrection.
> A tight argument for this has been given by Peter Bolt in an MTh thesis
> (Moore College, Sydney) - it's also close to a position put by NT Wright,
> though ending up in an entirely different place.
>
> Think it through carefully. Daniel 7, the Son of Man coming in the clouds
> (that Jesus says "This generation will see) is, in Daniel 7, coming TO THE
> THRONE IN HEAVEN. We tend to read it as "coming back to earth." But Jesus
is
> talking about COMING INTO POWER AS KING, ruling with the Ancient of Days.
>
> >From that point, there are all sorts of literary clues, as I pointed out
in
> my previous email, that lead up to THE CROSS.
>
> It's a mind blowing perspective, but it hangs together very well.
>
> Phil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <HStaiti AT aol.com>
> To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2001 10:39 am
> Subject: [gmark] Re: Mark 13.30 "tauta panta"& "hey genea"
>
>
> > In a message dated 1/2/01 6:38:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > philcam AT tpg.com.au writes:
> > > The best solution is to see that Jesus is actually talking about the
> > > cross/resurrection/ascension, where in terms of Daniel 7, the Son of
> Man
> > > comes in the clouds TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS, from where he rules.
> > > So, instead of assuming he's talking about the parousia (which I
think
> is a
> > > later theological reflection, rather than a textual one), we need to
> follow
> > > the thread leading up to this point, where Jesus identifies the cross
> as
> > his
> > > path to kingship.
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > Thanks for the input, but I am not following you at all. Are you saying
> that
> > Mark 13.24ff has to do with the cross/resurrection/ascension?
> >
> > I am not following you on this point.
> >
> >
> > Peace to you,
> > Harry Staiti
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > www.EvangelAssemblyOfGod.org (UPDATED Jan 2, 2001)
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
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