Kata Markon

[Doug Jantz <dwjantz AT swbell.net>]

"Professor L.W. Hurtado" wrote:Welllll, yes and no.  If the "all these things"
of Mk 13:30 refers to

> the events leading up to the destruction of the temple ("these
> things", 13:4), and "these things" is not inclusive of the coming of
> the Son of Man of 13:24-27 (which is explicitly distinguished from
> the preceding events in v. 24, "AFTER THAT TRIBULATION"), then
> for "all these things " to happen in "this generation" required only
> everything up to v. 24.  Now, I quite agree that 13:28-29 makes the
> coming of the Son of Man very close ("at the door") to "all these
> things"; and so there remains the "problem" that the subsequent
> 19 centuries make clear:  the Son of Man didn't come all that
> terribly close to the destruction of the temple!
> Larry Hurtado

"These things" I see in 13.4 when Peter, James, John and Andrew are asking 
Jesus
about the things he mentioned in v.2.  All the stones will be thrown down
belonging to the temple.  They ask when is it going to take place?  Jesus 
begins
this discourse answering their question.  The Coming of the Son of Man is as
much judgment language as it was in the OT scriptures, part of which is quoted
in 24f.  WE have the problem thinking his coming must be the 2nd coming!  
Prof.
Hurtado, I think, is along the same thinking.  Or am I mistaken?

Doug

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