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- From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: Local music... who decides?
- Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:24:14 -0500
I don't book a club, but I play a variety of other (to use the honest word) gatekeeper roles--I make most of the recommendations as to what local CDs get playlisted at WXDU, for example. I book the bands who play live on my radio show. I decide what shows I list on trianglerock.com.
And to be perfectly honest, if a local band has a "manager," that's an instant red flag for me. I get a fair number of emails about shows & bands & whatnot, and as I'm skimming them for the tiny kernels of useful information (who/where/when), if I see "Manager" in connection with the sender's name, I'm inclined to stop reading.
This is especially true when the manager uses the collective "we" when referring to the band, as if he/she were a full-fledged bandmember, if in fact he or she does not get up onstage & play an instrument with the band.
Does this make me a bad person? Yes, sure, almost certainly. Thankfully I'm at least aware of this, so if the band sends a CD or has music on their MySpace, I'll probably listen to it anyway. But it'll be starting at a deficit with me.
The only rationale I can present by way of explanation is this one: I've listened to a couple of thousand CDs by an endless stream of local bands over the past 16 years, and with the exception of a brief period when Shawn Rogers was managing the Archers, I've almost never heard anything from a local band with "management" that was worth a shit.
(Now, obviously, once a band hits a certain level--like, say, Squirrel Nut Zippers, or Tift Merritt, or Ryan Adams--then management becomes a necessity. But that bar is pretty high, and if you're struggling to get booked into Local 506, I'm guessing you haven't hit it yet.)
I'll let Glenn speak for Local 506, as I'm sure he's hard at work composing a reply right-this-second.
To answer the more general question that you're asking (why do some bands get gigs more readily than others?), I can think of a couple of possible answers:
1) the club owner has booked that band before, and they drew well, so he's gonna book them again
2) the club owner listened to that other band's CD, and your CD, and the other band's CD was better than your CD
What Glenn might say (I guess we'll find out in about 15 minutes) is that even though Local 506 seems like a small club, it's still not a starter-level club--it has a capacity of a couple hundred people. There are quite a few bars around here who do live music, and have a capacity of <100. Are you having the same amount of trouble getting booked at (for example) Jack Sprat, or Nightlight, or the Cave, or Dain's Place in Durham?
What Glenn will probably also say, because he's said it before, is that at any given time, there are a couple of hundred local bands trying to get booked into the dozen or so local clubs that book local bands.
I suppose if this were some kind of Rainbow Soccer version of a local music scene, then everybody would get to play at every club exactly 1.6 times per year (but some peeps would still get stuck with Monday night).
Let me close with an age-old suggestion: make friends with one or more of those bands who get shows at all the clubs you want to get shows at. It's not uncommon for a local band who are known to draw well to get some input into who opens for them.
Good luck,
Ross
chapelhillguitarist AT hotmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
Preface: This is not 'sour grapes'. My intention is to understand
the dynamic so that myself and others don't have to be frustrated
unnecessarily when trying to book a new band.
I recently received an email from Local 506 about the goin's on at
that venue. Lots of great music acts and many of them local. Kudos
to Local 506 for hosting local talent in more than a token way.
However, ( this is meant to be a serious question ) when all requests
to book a band are ignored by any club that books local acts
(including 506), how does a band manager avoid feeling like they are
fighting favoritism?
What do I mean 'favoritism'? It seems the same local bands are
playing all of the local clubs yet when I try to book one of the local
bands that I manage, most of the time I don't even get a response. I
have visited the clubs, introduced myself, politely inquired via
email, telephone and in-person yet all of these local clubs are
silent.
So what am I raving about?
If a band manager has a great local band but local clubs won't speak
with them about booking the local band, what advice can you offer to
ensure communication with the club manager short of firing the band
manager or stalking the club manager?
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Local music... who decides?,
chapelhillguitarist, 02/05/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, trunk, 02/05/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, chapelhillguitarist, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
grady, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Kevin Grealey, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
grady, 02/05/2008
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Kevin Grealey, 02/05/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, kutchma, 02/05/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, grady, 02/05/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, hepstyle AT gmail.com, 02/06/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Kevin Grealey, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
grady, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Kevin Grealey, 02/05/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
trunk, 02/05/2008
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James Hepler, 02/06/2008
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Duncan Murrell, 02/06/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, local506, 02/06/2008
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Duncan Murrell, 02/06/2008
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James Hepler, 02/06/2008
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