RTP-area local music and culture

[John I <not AT hotmail.com>]

Kate Guillemette wrote:

>  --- John Iwaniszek <Not AT hotmail.com> wrote:
>> grady AT ibiblio.org (grady) wrote in
>> 42810302.9030403 AT ibiblio.org:">news:42810302.9030403 AT ibiblio.org:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not a Cradle hater.  I like the Cradle.  It is a
>> genuine NC 
>> institution.  But it is filthy, has lousy seating,
>> it's decor is crap, the 
>> bathroom smells like an abatoire, and its regulars
>> seem to have the sense 
>> of humor of a state trooper whose wife just took out
>> a restraining order on 
>> him.  Oh, and what is it about the no dancing thing?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Pardon me, but are these your criteria for a good rock
> venue, or for a cozy neighborhood bar? Decor?
> Seriously?

Sure.  Why not?


> 
> Also, you want people to dance *and* you want seating.

Yes.

> What, so people can sit down when they wear themselves
> out dancing? Where would you suggest the venue add
> seating? In the middle of the floor? The Cradle has
> added a lot of seating since I started going there,
> and they've managed to do so without compromising the
> space for show-standers. For shows where most people
> will want to sit down, The Management brings in
> chairs.
> 
> Finally, I thought we'd settled this dancing thing.

I didn't get the memo.  And since I am not part of the committee, I don't 
regularly get the minutes.


> It's a charming cultural peculiarity. I will dance
> when the music suggests dancing to me, which indie
> rock does not often do. I will not jerk my scrawny
> frame around arhythmically in a pastiche of what MTV
> thinks I should be doing in a large crowd just to
> protect myself from being labeled by some complete
> stranger who won't be at another show for the next
> three months anyway.


That seems like a very specific dichotomy.  Is there a middle ground 
somewhere?


> 
> Also, the Cradle isn't quite as filthy as you might
> assume, especially since the nonsmoking thing. They
> clean that place with bleach. Bleach! Admittedly, many
> of the patrons often do smell bad. Those
> every-three-months show-goers could use some showers
> all around. Hey, the Cradle even has a shower! No,
> they may not use it.
> 
> 
> Kate
> 
> 
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