RTP-area local music and culture

[John Iwaniszek <Not AT hotmail.com>]

"Gorman" <goylemjax AT yahoo.com> wrote in 
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> Is this an attempt at humor, or are you an employee of Disco Rodeo or
> just a fool?
> 
> Point by point breakdown:
>> >>>
>> >>>How many people can cram into the Raleigh venue where the Pixies
> are
>> >>>playing? I have heard it is like seeing a show in a Wal-Mart auto
> shop.
>> >>
>> >> As opposed to the sanitary and luxuriously appointed Cats Cradle?
> I think these are roughly equal in cleanliness; The Cradle does let you
> come in and out at leasure, they don't have goons making sure you're
> not bringing in yr own water bottles, thus maximizing the amount of $
> they can siphon out of yr wallet, much less waste yr time in line b/c
> they have to search everyone.
> 
>> >
>>
>> > I think this is really no contest, and I won't even count the
> sound:
>> >
>> > 1. Cradle is non-smoking
>>
>>
>> A real plus since the overwhelming majority of rockers don't smoke.
> But if you don't smoke, it's cool, great in fact; and unlike DR, you
> can go outside and light up, go eat nearby, rent a film, go off a
> screw, etc, and still come back in.
>>
>>
>> > 2. Cradle beer is cheaper and more diverse.
>>
>> Warm Hams on tap diversity does not make.  Although I found a roach
> in mine
>> once when I was there, so they clearly do not discriminate against
> our
>> invertebrate friends.
> Buying beer is a waste of $ at DR.  I quit even trying to bother
> drinking there b/c it's not worth the cost.  It's on the level of
> Walnut Creek/TheShed practically.  In fact, you could make the further
> argument that it compares favorably to Walnut Creek in terms of staff
> and mgmt.  At least most of the Cradle employees have some interest in
> music.  The feeling I get from DR is that their job would be no
> different than selling shoes or installing a hot water heater.
>>
>>
>> > 3. Cradle, I bet, has more seats, at least on a sq ft basis.
>>
>> Not a rational statistical claim.
> Fair enought, but at least the Cradle doesn't have raised dance floor
> stuck in the middle of it, making the view of the right behind it
> mostly impractical...and making that area between the stage and the
> dancefloor jam packed.
>>
>>
>> > 4. Ritz doesn't allow re-entry should you have to go outside. At
> least
>> > the last time I was there.
>>
>> Good.
> What's actually good about this?
>>
>> > 5. If it's possible, the Cradle's cement floor actually seems
> softer to me.
>>
> Whatever.
>>
>> > 6. Cradle has the ingenious wormhole that allows you to get at
> least
>> > halfway back to the bar and bathrooms without having to push
> through the
>> > worst part of a crowd. I've always admired that, whoever devised
> it.
>> > Seconds can be precious.
>>
>> The evidence speaks against this being routinely taken advantage of.
> What empirical evidence are you talking about, genius?
> 
> None of yr counter arguments are convincing in the least.  




I made an argument?  cool.