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  • From: John Iwaniszek <Not AT hotmail.com>
  • To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: this happens from time to time, but
  • Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 00:50:30 GMT

grady AT ibiblio.org (grady) wrote in 42810302.9030403 AT ibiblio.org:">news:42810302.9030403 AT ibiblio.org:

> John I wrote:
>
>>>1. Cradle is non-smoking
>>
>> A real plus since the overwhelming majority of rockers don't smoke.
>
> Correct, although it's hard to get exact figures. Most Chapel
> Hill/Carrboro rockers are white, college-educated people between the
> ages of 18 and 40. Overall smoking rates for that age-group are around
> 26%. The abstract I found (
> http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/research_data/adults_prev/mmwr_highlights_52
> 40.htm ) doesn't provide specific numbers for whites nor for
> college-educated folks (although overall, folks with postgraduate
> education had a smoking rate of only 9.5%) so we'll have to make up
> some numbers. Let's just say
> that rockers smoke at a slightly higher rate than American Indians
> (32.7%) and high-school dropouts (34.3%). In fact, let's just round it
> up to an even 40%.
>
> Anecdotally, I'd say it's actually lower than that; even at the Local
> 506, when I'm looking around at my fellow audience members, I'd wager
> that fewer than 2/5 are smoking. Those few just spew out a lot of
> smoke.
>
>>>2. Cradle beer is cheaper and more diverse.
>>
>> Warm Hams on tap diversity does not make. Although I found a roach
>> in mine once when I was there, so they clearly do not discriminate
>> against our invertebrate friends.
>
> While Hamms is still apparently brewed today, I'm fairly sure I
> haven't seen it at the Cradle, at least not on tap. They do feature
> the Carolina Brewery's beers on tap, including their perfectly tasty
> Copperline Amber, which makes up in freshness what it might lack in
> depth.
>
> On the bottled side, while I can't say that I've memorized the beer
> list, I seem to recall a selection at least diverse enough to include
> some Abita products. Haven't been to Disco Rodeo since the name
> change, but when it was the Ritz, you had your fairly standard choice
> of ________, ________ LITE, or Heineken.
>
> Why are you such a Cradle-hater? Scared of black bathrooms? Sat down
> on the sofa one time & were embarrassed to find you couldn't stand
> back up? Lifelong fear of splinters from plywood? Don't wish to spend
> the entire night trying to find the "sweet spot"? (hint: try that
> little balcony immediately behind the mixing console, especially if
> the sound guy is traveling with the band & doesn't know how to
> compensate for the boominess of the room down front)
>
> Ross
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I'm not a Cradle hater. I like the Cradle. It is a genuine NC
institution. But it is filthy, has lousy seating, it's decor is crap, the
bathroom smells like an abatoire, and its regulars seem to have the sense
of humor of a state trooper whose wife just took out a restraining order on
him. Oh, and what is it about the no dancing thing?










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