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["Prodromos Tsiavos" <p.tsiavos AT lse.ac.uk>]

Dear All,

I think we have a couple of interesting ideas floating and a very good 
letter to start with. All issues mentioned by John, Paul and Alek may be 
summarized in a single point: we need better communication between national 
CC projects and CC HQs so that all the knowledge existing in the national 
level is shared more effectively and efficiently with the board. I would 
also agree with Alek that the point is not to agree on a solution at this 
stage but rather point out the issues to the CC HQs. J.C.'s letter is a 
brilliant starting point but we need to incorporate amendments and agree on 
the content.

For those reasons, I would suggest that anyone having any comments regarding 
the text of the letter drafted by Juan Carlos, please send them on the list 
by Monday the 21st of April. I will also get in touch with Catharina to see 
if we could have a closed wiki ASAP where you could directly change the 
text. Once we agree on a final text then we should have another couple of 
weeks (maximum) for the approval by each CC Europe project and then send it 
to the CC HQs.

Though I agree that other CC projects should be involved in the discussion, 
I would strongly suggest we confine ourselves to the boundaries of CC Europe 
Working Group for the time being and if that process is successful, we may 
involve other CC projects as well.

Best wishes
pRo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alek Tarkowski" <alek AT creativecommons.pl>
To: "Paul Keller" <pk AT kl.nl>
Cc: <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Cc-europe] draft letter to the CC Board on communication and 
governance


> Dear all,
>
> I think it's already clear that there are multiple ideas as to how to
> solve the "governance issue" - Paul is suggesting a legal advisory body,
> John is writing about an international board with broader scope of
> competencies...
>
> I for one would like to see not just an advisory body on legal issues,
> but more communication regarding long-term planning, or maybe even the
> vision of where CC is going. This does not have to entail participation
> in decision making - though, on the other hand, I'm not sure that's an
> excessive request...
>
> This shows, I think, that we either need a meeting to discuss this
> face-to-face or some online process for choosing between the proposals.
> This could be done either internally among the leads or already with the
> involvement of CC HQ.
>
> As a side note, I think it's worth remembering that formally there is a
> very strong level of involvement written into our cooperation
> agreements, where it's stated that CC HQ works together with legal
> partners in running local projects - I would say that currently it's the
> other way around, with local projects helping out with a global CC
> project run by CC HQ.
>
> I think that currently we do not need to agree on a solution - but just
> point out the problem. Maybe the different proposals / solutions should
> be collected somewhere, on a "brainstorming" page?
>
> This way we could send the letter pretty quick, and use the opportunity
> - as Paul pointed out - of recent personal shifts in the CC HQ.
>
> Maybe we can agree on some reasonable date for sending out the letter.
> I'd propose to put the letter in a current form on some wiki, give
> everyone a week to make any comments / corrections, and another week to
> "sign" the letter - and then send it.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alek
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