development of an education license or license option for Creative Commons

[Heather Ford <hford AT csli.stanford.edu>]

> > > If it ain't a commons, it shouldn't be on this website
> > > or it should be clearly delineated with a message:
> > > "This license will not put your work in a public commons"
> >
> > Isn't this for Creative Commons to decide? I know that sounds like a
> > silly question, but shouldn't they be allowed to judge for themselves
> > what is a commons and what isn't, and whether an educational commons is
> > a thing worth trying to facilitate or not?
> If it's for Creative Commons to decide, then we're back to
> my original argument about there being no process and
> about Creative Commons doing whatever it wants, no
> matter what people want.

I don't think this is what David is saying - I think he is saying that it 
is for the larger community, filled with a variety of different people from 
different sectors and different contexts, to decide, through use, on how 
the licenses should develop - this is merely transferring the decision 
about what kinds of choices people want to the commons, rather than 
foregoing the license or the particular conditions of a license because 
*we* think this is what people want and need. I think that the default in 
this early stage should definitely be *MORE CHOICE* rather than less.


> It is clear that there are significant differences over this
> issue. It is clear that the education license, as written,
> will arouse significant opposition in the community.
>
> It's time, I think, to come up with the fish.
>
> Let's see a process for making this decision put on
> the table. A process that ensures that people with a
> stake in the issue have a bearing on the outcome. A
> process that amounts to something more than just
> 'Creative Commons doing what it wants.'
>
> I think this is an important moment, not just for
> educators, but for Creative Commons. The decision
> as to whether CC belongs to the people, or is a
> private fiefdom, is made here.

I think that this is very unfair - Creative Commons is a movement about 
choice - it is not about applying particular models to common use - but 
rather about accommodating different ways in which people wish to share 
work. Unfortunately there seem to be different views of what is democratic 
here - but I feel very strongly that we need to come to some kind of 
compromise - or stick with the decision of the project lead and review with 
*real* statistics how things pan out in *Reality*.

Best,

Heather.


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