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  • From: email AT greglondon.com
  • To: cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Cc: cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: RE: [cc-education] WHY EDU ?
  • Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 17:25:47 -0800 (PST)

On 10 Feb 2004 07:03:28 +0800, David Palmer wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 04:46, email AT greglondon.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:18:51 -0500 , "Alexander, Bryan" wrote:
> You cannot ask anymore of the giver of the gift than what
> they are prepared to give.

Agreed. but education-only licenses should not be
on a CreativeCommons.org website, talking about
creating a public commons of audio, video, and text,
with a picture of a cow eating in a public commons
as its mascot.

If it ain't a commons, it shouldn't be on this website
or it should be clearly delineated with a message:
"This license will not put your work in a public commons"

> To ask someone, from one of the more conservative sociological sectors,
> to take their lifework and throw it into the public arena to be torn
> apart, modified, rebuilt would be an extremely daunting prospect for
> them and anathema from their point of perception.
> Their work is the sum total of their existence thus far. It is closely
> tied to their sense of personal identity, and to ask them to (what
> appears to them to be) just throw it away with the prospect of it being
> destroyed, is a process that I doubt that many of them would be capable
> of aligning themselves with.

I have to disagree there.
That argument was made by many a proprietary software
company explaining why open-source software would never
be successful. No one will ever contribute their hard
work in the form of good, working code.

The notion of SCARICITY is a notion incompatible with
an intellectual public commons where every individual
can gain from the works without any of the works losing.
It is not like a physical commons, a pasture or ocean,
where you can overfeed or overfish. it is not a zero-sum-game.

scarcity is the argument against open source and intellectual commons
but can only be applied from a physical, someone must lose
for someone to gain, model, it doesn't make sense in a
creative commons.


> > My perl training manual is CC-BY-SA.
>
> Ah, someone from the darkside.
> Will you still be able to read your code six months from now, Luke?

OOOHHHH AAAHHHH, OOOHHH AAAHHHH,

(that's supposed to be Darth Vader breathing,
but it seems to lose something in translation)

;)




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