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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
> ===================
> Sindi wrote:
> > The SW8.1 glibc 2.2.5 libraries worked
> > perfectly in BL3.40.
>
> Really?  I would expect them to have the same
> issue with libc5 X libraries.

libX11 is statically compiled.

> > Why would they NOT work equally well in BL3.50?
>
> I have no idea.  And I don't really care.
> The 2.3.1 libraries work with Opera and
> those are the ones I recommend.
>
> > I would take me far too long to download SW90
> > glibc package.
>
> Why?  The glibc-solibs-2.3.1 package is 1mb.

I had set up at one point to compile with the SW71 glibc (2.1.3, full 
package) and then added SW81 glibc so (2.2.5).  This made a big mess which 
was hard to fix.  So if I installed the SW9.0 glibc-solibs-2.3.1 package I 
would also need to install the full glibc package to compile with, and 
maybe also a few other large packages to match.  (I ended up installing 
all the SW81 packages needed to compile with to fix my earlier mess). 
I am sticking with the SW81 glibc in BL2 (where I compile) and see no
reason to use anything later in BL3.50 since SW81 one works elsewhere.  I 
think QEMU needed 2.3.X but I gave up on using QEMU.

> I just downloaded the Opera 9 package (on dialup)
> and it's 7mb.

Used to be 5MB.  I was able to rename the smaller older skin from windows 
to standard in Opera 8 to get rid of the XP-looking effects.  They no 
longer have the choice in the menu.  You can also set up to download 
without images and then 'reload' one image with a right click or Shift-G 
to load them all (again not in the menu).  I kept Opera 7 for reference.
Opera 8 also dropped a lot of choices of how to display websites to be 
more easily read but I think you can still make the choices with a text 
editor.

> > I unpackaged Opera in / and run it from /opera*/bin/opera
>
> It sounds like you didn't install Opera.
> I'm not sure running it from the archive's
> bin directory actually works.

It works fine in BL3.40.  I have 7.23 and 8.52 in their own directories 
and type opera-8*/opera (or opera-7*) which is a script that says "Use 
this if you don't want to install Opera to any special location, but 
execute it from the extracted package or current location" .  The large 
executable is opera-8*/bin/opera.  The script has a lot of stuff about 
java.  When I tried to start it from opera-8*/bin/opera it could not find 
some spellcheck library.

> > Opera 8.52 worked in 3.40.
>
> It also works in 3.50.  So does Opera 9.21.
>
> > Please could you retrace my steps?
>
> There is no need to retrace your steps.  You
> just need to follow the recommended steps.

I do not want to download glibc from SW90.  What I did worked for BL3.40 
and I would much prefer not to install a larger/later glibc than is really 
needed.  Most of what is in the glibc package is not needed, ditto for 
your two packages.  I will eventually figure out what went wrong for me to 
prevent libX11 from being found by the other X libraries.  Strace?

> > I am hoping to share BL3.50 with friends who
> > are waiting for Opera
>
> There is no need to wait.  Opera works with 3.50.
> Simply follow the step-by-step instructions.

They add too many things that are irrelevant.  I will be putting BL3.50 in 
loop partitions for some people and want to keep it smaller.  I see no use 
at the moment for libBrokenLocale, libpcprofile, libnss_nisplus, .....
libSegFault, the man page for ldd, or anything in your misc-libs besides 
libz (close to 2MB).  What do you use libfreetype or libgcc_s or libstdc++ 
for?

Thank you for getting Opera working, even 9.21.  Maybe Opera decided if 
they were only going to post one version to use an older glibc than in 
9.02, which I think did not work.

> Cheers,
> Steven