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[JP Piers ( drinou ) <f5nlg AT tiscali.fr>]

Hi,

you have to check on your videoboard docs or in google if it's exlain 
somewhere

recent cards are vesa 2.0 olds are not i don't know exactly whe the vesa 2.0 
have been introduce in market ...

i will try to make an other mini-X packages for non vesa card but it will 
restricted to 8 bits, with chimera and a CDE clone window manager like the 
vesa one.

JP Piers



le Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:48:13 +0000
Neo Sze Wee <neoszewee AT gmx.net> écrit:

> On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:34:20AM +0000, qwms-avib AT dea.spamcon.org wrote:
> > JP Piers ( drinou ) wrote:
> > > 
> > > for minix-1.1.tgz your video card must be vesa 2 complient ...
> 
> How do you know it is Vesa 2 compliant?
> 
> > 
> > That's unfortunate.  I have 14 video cards and *none* of 
> > them are VESA 2.  No framebuffer for me.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Steven
> > 
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Subject: Re: [BL] BL2 and Lynx 2.8.4-ssl and Opera 6 - no crashes (yet)
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 06:22:33PM -0400, sindi keesan wrote:

> I downloaded and installed it lynx-284 with ssl.  I moved lynx.cfg to
> where it said to move it when I started lynx-ssl (which I needed to put on
> the path).  What is mailcap used for?  It works without that.  (The DOS
> version is set up differently, no mailcap).  I changed the start page to
> the bookmarks file so i could use lynx locally.  I changed the jpeg and
> gif viewer from xli (it was not zgv) to seejpeg.

You don't have to use a mailcap file, but if you read the VIEWER
section in lynx.cfg, you would have seen that all the VIEWER
defininitions were commented out and the GLOBAL_MAILCAP was set
to /etc/mailcap in the next section instead. It also explains
that this is the preferred way of doing it. That's the way it's
set up on my main (Debian) box, so I did it that way.

> Has anyone in the group used Linux with a scanner.

Not with BL, but my Umax 2200 works with my Adaptec 2940 SCSI
card using sg.o module and the SANE driver. I've only used it
a few times, but it seems fine. Anything SCSI seems to work
with Linux. There is also a USB interface, but I didn't have
any luck at all with that.

Howard E.
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> > Can I only do graphics in icewm ?

I can do graphics without icewm using links -g (X).  I have used ratpoison
or else no window manager at all.

> Unless you install (and configure) svgalib, you can
> only do graphics in X.

I installed and don't recall configuring svgalib and can do graphics in
console links (0.93 or 2.1.9) using seejpeg.  (I had to change a few lines
in setup to do this - I can explain what I did).  The console version
loads and displays faster and I like it because the links can be numbered
and there is no need for a mouse.  The graphics are not inline, you need
to click on the link for an image to see it on a separate screen (like
Lynx).  (An added advantage is that the backspace key works properly in
console mode and for me it does not in X).

> > It DOES run under icewm with the -g parameter, but the
> > colours are absolute crap,
>
> If anybody finds a way of reducing the color range to a
> simpler pallet, please report back here.

I don't have this problem - I use mono VGA;)
You could also try not using a window manager if that is what is messing
up the colors.  In .xinitrc put a # in front of icewm and add the line
xterm which gives you an xterm when you startx.

> > and the speed of display is pretty glacial at 33 MHz.
It also depends on the speed of your video card.  PCI video cards are a
lot faster than ISA cards.

> Don't give up yet.  We have only just started with links2
> -- we may discover ways of improving its performance on
> the vga16 Xserver.  Or, it may be better to use svgalib
> (however, it is not certain that links2 will run faster
> on svgalib than on X).

I can try comparing the speeds with graphics turned off.  They are not
really comparable with graphics turned on since the console Links2
does not show inline graphics.  Am I misunderstanding something?  I think
by 'on svgalib' you mean console mode (no X).

> > Do I need to get seejpeg.tgz ?
> > Or libpng.tgz and such stuff ?
>
> No, those were used by the old links to display individual
> images.  links2 is a real graphical browser.

The Links 2.1.9 posted by JP (and then Steven) was compiled statically
with libpng.tgz so you don't need to add that.  Seejpeg is what I set up
for use by (non-graphical, text-mode with links to images) console Links,
0.93 or 2.1.9 -- don't you still need to choose some viewer to see images
using Links 2.1.9 in console mode?  Links 2.1.9 is using the same
configuration file that I set up for Links 0.93.  Seejpeg only display
gifs and (some) jpegs, not png or tiff files.

> > Will it help if I get and install the S3 video driver
> > for my Tseng card with 1 MB video RAM ?
>
> You will certainly get better graphics and it might be
> faster too.

I don't follow why you would use an S3 driver for a Tseng card.  None of
my Tseng cards have anything to do with S3.  The Tseng cards have a Tseng
chip, the S3 cards an S3 chip.

My book lists:
XSVGA.tgz - server for Super VGA-based boards (including Tseng ET4000)
XS3.tgz - server for S3-based boards
(I think S3 Virge has its own X server).


> Cheers,
> Steven


Sindi Keesan