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["Krzysztof A. Suchecki" <christopher.suchecki AT wp.pl>]

qwms-avib AT dea.spamcon.org wrote:

I have 486dx33, 16MB RAM, 250MB HDD, CD-ROM 4x.
I managed to install BL2-02 to HDD C: with
packages from CD-ROM with _completely_ no problem.

> > I have since checked every one of those packages (as
> > in gunzip -t xxx.tgz) and every one without exception
> > got the thumbs down - invalid tgzp magic.
>
> They are not recognized as gzips.

I confirm - they aren't gzipped files.
So Ron, check: 1st - size of your *.tgz files,
It should be (in bytes):

a2/bin = 1,029,260
a2/e2fsprog =  261,848
a3/gzip = 52,484
a4/fileutls = 414,358
a6/grep = 202,451
a6/hdsetup = 141,626
a6/ldso = 199,847
a13/tar = 302,427

2nd - if they don't match, check how browser treat *.tgz
files - maybe as ascii not binary ones.

3nd - if size match, boot BL2 ramdisk version
and do "md5sum" on those *.tgz.

You should get:
================================
0efec464fd245ff472b293932ec97e87  bin.tgz
45c5f6c74b69a5df602f23a6f5b92c4d  e2fsprog.tgz
fff2175e6b3e2751ff34f43872cb785d  gzip.tgz
e7dd3fa72e5a01d4d3955996cd328db2  fileutls.tgz
56a7c6b1d54181032fd3a97f0970bc7e  grep.tgz
a6cff493e87d77e1ee1da038af3975b4  hdsetup.tgz
f4a08daddf4d68c3613e6d1e19884922  ldso.tgz
f157a0726914dddab346a22b455ccd68  tar.tgz
================================

Chris
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sindi keesan wrote:

> You should hear how badly Americans mispronounce Polish names!

It's no wonder  - Slavic and English pronunciations are
_completely_ different. The greatest problem we have with English
is just pronunciation - when I took Trinity College London Exam
of Spoken English (Grade 7 of 12) I got C for pronunciation
and it my lowest mark and the only so low.

> Why are you advertising this Oscar-winning movie
> to Basiclinux users?

Sorry, but it's done automagically by me free email account provider.
He adds some 2-3 lines ads to all mails. There is no way to turn it off
except provider change.

> And how do Poles pronounce Thriller?

forget about "h"  and second "l" - you got "triler".
("i" is like Linus says "Linux" - not English way.
So for English users it will be like "ee" in "bee")


Chris
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From: ruohtula AT netscape.net (Erkki Ruohtula)
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Subject: [BL] Notes on X11 keyboard mapping
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Someone asked about the xmodmap file syntax. Maybe that got sorted
out but reading the list I get the feeling the following might be useful
for some people new to Linux and X11.

I haven't yet tried to use X11 on Basiclinux, but I have
tinkered with X11 keyboard mappings on various other unixlike platforms,
so maybe I can offer some hints on how to get a keyboard
to behave.

The generals idea in X11 is that when you hit a key, it sends a "keycode"
to the X11 server. These are hardware dependent. X11 toolkit libraries
and applications normally do not use them (that would make them hardware-
dependent). Instead the X11 server converts the keycodes to "keysyms"
which can be seen as a hardware-independent description of what key was
hit. The X11 programs then act on these.

The xmodmap program can be used to manipulate the keycode-to-keysym
mapping. This is usually the best way to make a key change behavior,
because it affects all X11 programs (but sometimes you want a key
remapping to affect only a particular program, and then you have to use
something specific to the program, like setting a resource string for
xterm).

The main problem with redefining keysyms is figuring out what key
produces which keycode. X11 has a program called "xev" that is a
help here. (Unfortunately some Linux distributions omit it, I don't know
if Slackware 7.1 has it). Create a xterm window and type "xev" there.
Don't put it in the background.
The xev program creates a window that just contains a square
Make the window have the keyboard focus (click it or just move mouse
there, depending on how your window manager is set up) and hit keys.
You will see text lines like:

MotionNotify event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x2a00001,
    root 0x3e, subw 0x0, time 3486608963, (115,115), root:(119,135),
    state 0x0, is_hint 0, same_screen YES

appear in the xterm window. They list "events" that the xev program
gets from X11 (it is very educational to see how they correspond
to mouse operations!). Stop your mouse and hit the keys you are interested
in. You see something like this:

KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x2c00001,
    root 0x3e, subw 0x0, time 3486777276, (107,171), root:(111,191),
    state 0x0, keycode 38 (keysym 0x61, a), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "a"

KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x2c00001,
    root 0x3e, subw 0x0, time 3486777348, (107,171), root:(111,191),
    state 0x0, keycode 38 (keysym 0x61, a), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 1 characters:  "a"

This was for hitting the A key. You see it has keycode 38. Use this to
get the codes for the keys you want to remap. Then go to the xterm and hit
ctrl-C to kill the xev program.

Then you can make a file with a line like

keycode <keycode> = <unshifted> <shifted>

where <keycode> is the keycode, <unshifted> is the keysym it sends by
default and <shifted> when shift is down. Actually there can be at least
for some keys added keysyms for AltGR down and Shift-AltGr down, but
you don't need to specify them and I am not sure if they work in all
keyboards or X11 servers. The bit on modifier declarations
is not quite clear to me yet. Should investigate.

You can get a textual dump of your current keymap by typing

xmodmap -pke

This gives you an idea of what keysym names there are (and keycodes
as well).

I hope the above is useful to someone, and not totally wrong...

Erkki

PS: I read this lists from the digests and not very often,
so if you comment on the above, I will probably not respond until
after a day or two.


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I downloaded and installed Opera 5.05 for Linux (latest .tgz package).
It needed:
libjpeg and libpng (both in /a3/elflibs)
libpthread  (in glibcso)

Both packages are about 800K.  The libpthread file itself is about 70K.  I
may make a copy of it somewhere along with its link, then uninstall the
rest of the package and put back that one file to saev space.


Opera loads fine.  I managed to get rid of most of the bars and buttons
and bookmark lists so that 2/3 of the screen is usable at 640 x 480
(instead of 1/3 of it).  Paying $20 would get rid of the ad and make even
more space.  

I tested it on the default home page (images work fine) and at my bbs and
my ISP webmail.

Opera 5.05 has much better keyboard navigation than Netscape 3 or 4 for
Linux.  You can tab between the links.  But unlike Opera 7 (forWin95,
anyway) I could not access the forms and buttons with the keyboard (tab
key did not work).  The mouse worked.  

Opera 5.05 worked fine for my webmail.  (I have not yet tried it at a few
webmail sites where Links 093 flunked).

At my bbs, which is accessible via a web interface, some of the buttons
did not work even with the mouse and when I finally tried to post an entry
I got an error message.  Lynx works fine at my bbs.  So does Opera
7/Win95.  There are advantages to using browsers that are as new as the
html they are tring to display.  I may try 6.03 next Sunday when I can tie
up the phoneline for an hour again downloading.  Some people having
crashing problesm with 6.1 said 6.03 worked better for them.  

Despite all these forms, not a single crash.  I have not tried accessing
sites needing javascript yet.  

Opera 5.05 has the advantage of being 3/5 the size of the later versions.

I will compare Opera and Links 219 at different sites.  It might be
helpful to have both of them as neither is exactly perfect.  

---------
Thanks very much to the person (whose name I forgot, sorry) who wrote in
with all the helpful information about how to use xmodmap to map X.

I was able to change from having both backspace and delete act like delete
in my xterm by commenting out the second line of .Xdefaults.  Now they act
like backspace keys (both of them).  But on Opera they still both act like
delete keys.  Perhaps putting back that line will make them act like
Delete keys in xterm and backspace keys in Opera?   Someone recently
commented that computer sciences should be renamed computer arts as things
are so unpredictable.

I will attempt to remap the keys on the number pad so Del deletes and then
the Delete and Backspace can both be backspace.