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[James Miller <jamtat AT mailsnare.net>]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, sindi keesan wrote:
> > Well, why don't you install the new library and report back to us?  Steven
>
> Why don't I?  I have no idea how to do this.  I am new to linux, have
> barely managed to get the basics working, and would most likely completely
> screw up a currently working system.  I tried once to replace one file at

I wish I could help, but I'm afraid you probably know more about this
already than I do.  I only remember some vague details about how Steven
installed newer libraries on BL1.x: wasn't it just a matter of pkg'ing an
elflibs.tgz package or something, Steven?  Would that work in Sindi's
case?  I'm recalling it was something quite simple, and Steven even seemed
a bit embarrassed that he'd never tried it before.  I'll append a copy of
that message below, in case there might be something helpful in it for
you.

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Date:    Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:29:50 +0000
From:    "Steven C. Darnold" <ichi AT ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Running Slack81 binaries in BasicLinux

Now that I finally have Slack81 running the way I want
(with Opera and AbiWord); I decided to see how hard it
would be to get Slack81 binaries to run on my BasicLinux
partition.  It turned out to be quite easy (sorry about
that guys -- I should have tried this a long time ago).

BasicLinux is built on libc5, which was the standard
Linux library between 1996 and 1999.  Gradually it
was superceded by glibc2 (which is much larger).
These days it is rare to see libc5 binaries, and
some BasicLinux users have found it difficult to
get the up-to-date add-ons that they need.

The solution to this library problem is to install
the glibc2 package from Slackware 8.1:
---------------------------------
pkg glibc-solibs-2.2.5-i386-2.tgz
---------------------------------
This package is in the /slackware/a directory.

Then, when you do 'ldd' on glibc2 binaries, you should
see that the libraries are OK.  Note:  some binaries
might also need ncurses or gpm or something else
(ldd will show this).  If so, pkg those packages from
Slackware 8.1 (ncurses is in /slackware/l and gpm is
in /slackware/a).

Once again I apologize to all you guys who have been
suffering library problems.  I had no idea that the
Slack81 glibc2 package would slip so easily into
BasicLinux.

Cheers,
Steven

--------------------------------

The "pkg" referred to above was a script for installing tgz files Steven
wrote for BL1.x.  It's superseded in BL2 by installpkg or pkgtool.  If
what he's said in the message above will be of help, you'll need to
replace any "pkg" commands with installpkg or pkgtool.

It may not be good news, but I feel I should inform you that you're only
beginning to experience the sort of headaches Linux can bring.  It's an
ongoing development, and if you want to use it and get it to do the
things you want (and that it promises), you have to become sort of a
developer.  I've come to this conclusion kicking and screaming.  I still
kick and scream.  I wouldn't wish the sort of headaches I have trying to
get things going on anyone else.  But, at the same time, I want to be
realistic about it and not have, or propagate false hopes.  Linux is a
royal pain in the rear.  Sometimes it's rewarding, sometimes it's just a
total bitch.  But there's something addictive about it . . .

End of anti-pep talk.

James
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sindi keesan wrote:
> 
> I have no idea how to do this.  I am new to linux, have
> barely managed to get the basics working, 

In that case, I suggest you forget about upgrading the
library.  There are more important things to worry about.

> Nobody that I have asked (and I have asked lots of people) 
> has apparently ugraded their library 

Because it's not something that a lot of people do.  They
upgrade their distributions (with new library inside) but
most do not upgrade the library as a separate operation.
Perhaps you should consider installing Slackware 8.1 --
it contains the library you want.  I even did instructions
last year for a mini-Slack81 install (that was pre-BL2).

> They had not, as far as I could find, compiled anything 
> that would work with 2.1.x.   

Using google, it took me three minutes to find Kermit binaries 
pre-compiled for Slackware 3.5, 3.6, 4.0 and 7.0.  That first 
one should run on BL1!  

Cheers,
Steven