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- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:44:00 -0500
Dear David,
To speak simply, the xian idea of a renewing of the mind or being born again is the same idea. The mind is not really new and a person is not actually reborn and yet they are renewed in both instances.
HH: First, we are getting away from Hebrew into Greek, and from OT to NT. But you are really making my point about Jeremiah 31:31-33 for me because the NT does not call it a "renewed birth" but a "new birth":
1Pet. 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us NEW BIRTH into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
A "renewed birth" would imply that the same physical birth we experienced long ago was occurring again. But the NT is talking about a different kind of birth, a spiritual birth. So it calls it a new birth, not a renewed birth. Similarly, Jeremiah is not talking about renewing the Mosaic covenant but of making a different kind of covenant. So he properly designates it a "new covenant." I have some other points to make about your comment, but I will address them to you off-list since they are somewhat unrelated to the Hebrew Bible. The list should be aware that you are somewhat improperly characterizing the Christian view on the topics you raise, though there is a modicum of truth in what you say.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?
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- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yigal Levin, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yigal Levin, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Steve Miller, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, K Randolph, 04/14/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, davidfentonism, 04/15/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, davidfentonism, 04/15/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
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- [b-hebrew] Fwd: New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, davidfentonism, 04/15/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Isaac Fried, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Gary Hedrick, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Yohanan bin-Dawidh, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, Harold Holmyard, 04/13/2007
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- [b-hebrew] Fwd: New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, davidfentonism, 04/15/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] New or Renewed in Jeremiah 31:31?, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Dying, you will die Gen 2:17, davidfentonism, 04/13/2007
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