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Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
- From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
- To: Gary Hedrick <garyh AT cjfm.org>
- Cc: B-Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:45:52 +0000
On 18/11/2006 19:23, Gary Hedrick wrote:
This has nothing to do with race or racism. There is no question
that there are legitimate differences between Hebrew and Greek thought, ...
There is indeed a lot of question about this. It is methodologically quite wrong to assume differences of thought from differences of language. See more below.
... andI don't know much about this work, but it has attracted two very bad "spotlight reviews" at Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Hebrew-Thought-Compared-Greek-Thorleif/dp/0393005348. Here is one of them, apparently from a scholar called Williams at UCLA:
that these differences can have a definite bearing on how we read the text
of the Hebrew Bible. One notable example of the difference between the two
is in their respective conceptions of time and space. This is explained in
some detail in Thorleif Boman's Hebrew Thought Compared with Greek. (It was
written originally in German but is readily available in an English
edition.) In the final chapter, the author concludes that the two
perspectives are not contradictory, but complementary. He says it's not a
matter of right vs. wrong because both are right (p. 208 in my paperback
edition). Interesting stuff.
This book assumes the peculiarity of the Hebrew language to make a theological point. Unfortunately, the author does not make a systematic analysis of either Hebrew or Greek. The arguments of the book were completely demolished by James Barr (Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University) in his book, The Semantics of Biblical Language. While I would urge everyone to study Hebrew (and Greek) because it will open up new insights into the Scriptures, this facile treatment of Hebrew is not really worthwhile.These are my thoughts exactly, on the basis of what you and Karl have described of Boman's work. Go away and read Barr, and then reevaluate Boman.
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Peter Kirk
E-mail: peter AT qaya.org
Blog: http://speakertruth.blogspot.com/
Website: http://www.qaya.org/
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Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37
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- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Harold Holmyard, 11/14/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/15/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/15/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Bryant J. Williams III, 11/15/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Harold Holmyard, 11/15/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/15/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, K Randolph, 11/17/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/17/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Gary Hedrick, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Gary Hedrick, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/18/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, K Randolph, 11/19/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/19/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, davidfentonism, 11/19/2006
- [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/20/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, K Randolph, 11/20/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Peter Kirk, 11/20/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew language and thought forms, was: "Desire of Women" in Heb. Text of Dan. 11:37, Bryant J. Williams III, 11/20/2006
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