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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation - history of matres lectionis
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation - history of matres lectionis
- Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:52:00 +0100
On 02/08/2005 18:52, Karl Randolph wrote:
Peter:
That is, if it continued to be pronounced. But could the present use of He as a mater lectionis been the result of pronunciation changes that occured over centuries when the Hebrew language was mainly a read language, and the rules for reading were derived from Greek and contemporary Aramaic pronunciations?
Well, Karl, you suggestion here seems to turn on its head the accepted theory of the history of matres lectionis. For you seem to suggest that word final he in e.g. feminine endings was originally pronounced, and only lost its pronunciation after the time of Nebuchadnezzar. This is of course possible. But do you have any evidence for this? I am not sure what the evidence against it would be - except for one point, that the feminine ending in classical Arabic is also a silent he, in what is probably a common origin which dates from a very early time.
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From the clues that I see, I theorize that pre-Exilic Hebrewwas pronounced in the pattern of consonant-vowel, in the same pattern as modern Japanese (That's the only place where I think the two languages resembled each other). But that later unstressed vowels were dropped, as well as some of the consonants shifted in their pronunciations. One group of unstressed vowels would have been the final vowels of most words. Another set were unstressed internal vowels that were replaced with shewas.
You are probably right here, that syllables were originally at least mostly CV. There is good evidence, mainly from cognate languages, that early Hebrew did have word final short vowel case endings, and so that most if not all words ended with vowels. But when these were dropped I'm not sure.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Vadim Cherny, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Vadim Cherny, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Vadim Cherny, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Vadim Cherny, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Awohili, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Awohili, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Karl Randolph, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation - history of matres lectionis, Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Bill Rea, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Read, James C, 08/02/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Bill Rea, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Read, James C, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Peter Kirk, 08/02/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Vadim Cherny, 08/03/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Uri Hurwitz, 08/03/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Jack Kilmon, 08/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation, Harold R. Holmyard III, 08/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation,
Read, James C, 08/02/2005
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