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  • From: "Read, James C" <K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk>
  • To: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation
  • Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:10:52 +0100


Thanx

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Sent: Tue 8/2/2005 11:42 PM
To: b-hebrew
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YHWH pronunciation

A native speaker of modern Hebrew would vocalize YHWH as the verb Yehaveh,
3rd person sing. masc. niph'al of HYH/HWH, meaning somthing like "will
constitute" (as opposed to the qal Yihyeh, "will be"). He would only assume
YHWH to be the Divine Name if it were written in context of scripture or
prayer, and then he would vocalize either "Adonai" or "Hashem". The only
Israelis, including those who are not religiously observant, who would
vocalize "Yahweh" or the like are those who studied Bible in a non-Israeli
and non-Jewish academic institution.

By the way, many modern Jewish, and especially Israeli, Bibles and paryer
books leave the Tetragrammaton undotted, precisely to show that the vowels
added by the Mesorah are not intended to be vocalized.



Yigal
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>
> I do not wish to belabor the point, but many Jews today read unpointed
> (voweless) texts with complete comprehension, and this was the case even
before
> the revival of Hebrew as a spoken language in Israel.
>
> So, would the average Tsabra instinctively know how to pronounce YHWH
> correctly?
>
> Solomon Landers
>
> In a message dated 08/02/2005 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> K0434995 AT kingston.ac.uk writes:
>
> As with all other verbs instincts would have guided a first language
hebrew
> to the correct pronunciation.
> This is why the texts never needed a vowel system.
>
>
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well that certainly was fun- and enlightening!

Read James C wrote:

>Yes, I know I've seen your site. It was very good.
>

snipped as irrelevent.

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D. Jim West

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