Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>]

Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org> wrote: 
Uri wrote:

>the Mishnah, when quoting biblical texts, is practically using the MT
>
I understand him to be claiming that there are very few differences 
between the MT and the consonantal text used by the authors of the 
Mishnah. I presume that he is not making a claim that the Mishnah 
reflects the MT vocalisation.

 Absolutely. Other than some cuniform and DSS evidence about PNs,  some 
el-Amarna and  comparative material from proto=Semitic, all important in 
themselves,  the original pronounciations are uncertain. I use the plural, 
because it stands to reason that over a period of a thousand years or more, 
and under the influence of various languages ,ranging from Aramaic to Greek, 
pronounciation changed. And that is apart from dialectical  variations such 
as south-north.

Uri






                
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>(LMH (also (LM in 1 Samuel 17, 20) when referring to a person indicates
that the person is unknown. The >root (LM has the meaning of being unknown,
in hiphil the causitive meaning, i.e. to hide.

Karl,
besides meaning "unknown", could (LMH / (LM also mean "unknowing" hence
"innocent." In 1 Sam 17:56 no one present knows who David, the (LM is. In 1
Sam 20:22 the (LM is totally innocent of the the communication going on
between Jonathan and David.

>(I think the term's use in Proverbs 30:10 refers to "the unknown", not a
person. The only arguments presented >that I have seen that it refers to a
person are not linguistic, but tradition. Hence I find them unconvincing.)

What is wrong with understanding the (LMH in Prov 30:19 the same as the
other 6 places it is used in the Tanach? as an undefiled innocent young
woman? The tender relationship of a man with an innocent young woman is a
wonderful mystery of the human life - it can only be understood by the heart
and not the mind. It is also a symbol the mystery between God and His
people.

thanks,
-Steve Miller
Detroit