Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Niels Peter Lemche <npl AT teol.ku.dk>]

Peter,

I think that you should pay a lot of attention to Kitchen's way of killing
Rohl. And you are not discussing the rather harmful (to Rohl) evidence I
presented. Do you really neen more than those letters?

As I said many times, chronology is not dark. Assyrian chronology links up
with Babylonian that links up with the Persian that links up with the Greek
that links up with the Roman, and on the other end, Assyrian chronology goes
together with the Baylonian, and Babylonian and Assyrian link up with
Hittite and with Egyptian. We are in the LBA, and there are still some
problems, realizing that Ramesses II has been moved down in time by some 30
years, from 1304 to, I believe 1279 and even 1272. But that shows the radius
of variance. Basically Landsberger and Albright got most of it right.

I think you should pay attention to Ian's advice and start becoming
acquainted with the professional stuff. Then one day you may persuade me to
deal in a serious way with the amateurish one. But as you wrote in another
mail, Rohl probably made a living of it. That is one of the parasite ways of
earning money from other peoples work, by denouncing it publicly to a
auditorium of laypeople who do not themselves know. Velokovski was very
successfull, and von Däniken earned a lot of money. Baigent and Lee too. To
earn money is normally an honest business, so I do not blame them for that. 

NPL



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Kirk [SMTP:peter_kirk AT sil.org]
> Sent: Monday, 14 February, 2000 04:40
> To:   Biblical Hebrew
> Subject:      Re[2]: FW: Just a clarification
> 
> In this way you may be able to falsify Rohl's general redating (though 
> you also need to explain his evidence from Apis bull datings etc etc). 
> However, I should remind you that this does not falsify Rohl's 
> identifications of biblical and archaeological events, except for 
> those who are committed to the chronology of Thiele etc based on the 
> internal biblical evidence. Rohl actually has two quite distinct 
> theses, which are link only by Thiele's questionable chronology.
> 
> Peter Kirk
> 
> 
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> Subject: Re: FW: Just a clarification
> Author:  <mc2499 AT mclink.it> at Internet
> Date:    13/02/2000 14:55
> 
> 
> At 13.09 13/02/00 +0100, Niels Peter Lemche wrote: 
> >> The other part is from Shalmanasser I (1274-1245)
> >> and Hattushilish III, I believe, and later Tukulti-Ninurta and
> Thudhaliya 
> >> IV. The exchnge between Hattushilish and Shalmanasser contains a
> request 
> >> from Assyria about a permision to travel to the western part of Syria
> to 
> >> worship. In this letter the Assyrian king talks about brotherhood,
> >> something that is flatly rejected by the Hittite king. Liverani used
> this 
> >> correspondance in Prestige and Interest, pp. 200, in his chapter on
> >> brotherhood.
> 
> It is letters like these, between successive Hittite and Assyrian kings, 
> that nail Rohl. His chronological revisionism must fall apart. He can 
> reascribe the Assyrian kings involved by changing the numbers say from 
> Tukulti-Ninurta I to Tukulti-Ninurta II, but in doing so the order becomes
> 
> wrong for the progression of the Hittite kings.
> 
> In the letter sent by Tudkhaliya IV, written when Tukulti-Ninurta I had 
> just arrived on the throne, the Hittite attempts to give advice to the 
> Assyrian, recommending that the latter not invade a place called Papkhi. 
> Later, Tukulti-Ninurta I, in a royal inscription giving his parentage as 
> son of Shalmaneser (I) son of Adad-nirari (I) and mentioning his 
> contemporary Kashtiliash king of the Kassites, he calls himself the victor
> 
> of Papkhi. Obviously, this is Tukulti-Ninurta I who is contemporary with 
> Tudkhaliya IV, the latter being a contemporary of Ramses II.
> 
> Falsified again.
>
> Why not try to falsify the status quo before proposing inadequate 
> alternative solutions?
> 
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> ---
> You are currently subscribed to b-hebrew as: Peter_Kirk AT sil.org
> To unsubscribe, forward this message to
> leave-b-hebrew-14207U AT franklin.oit.unc.e
> du
> To subscribe, send an email to join-b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu.
> 
> 
> ---
> You are currently subscribed to b-hebrew as: npl AT teol.ku.dk
> To unsubscribe, forward this message to
> $subst('Email.Unsub')
> To subscribe, send an email to join-b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu.