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  • From: flux <flux AT sourcemage.org>
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  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] openmotif ... updating lesstif and nedit
  • Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:11:05 -0400

Thomas Orgis (thomas-forum AT orgis.org) wrote [09.03.24 22:37]:
> Concerning the Motif situation, I currently have a patched up CVS
> snapshot of lesstif running that seems to fix the known fatal issues.
> Please see
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1578451&group_id=8596&atid=108596
> for reference.
>
> I have a tarball of the patched lesstif, dubbed version 0.950.0
> (instead of 0.95.0, the last stable release), uploaded on my own
> webspace.
> I did that to have something non-volatile to work with -- without a
> stable alternative, as the "stable" lesstif is just too broken.
>
> Now, is there objection against me pushing that custom lesstif into the
> grimoire, replacing the obsolete version?
> Please, have a read on that bug report, and perhaps also this thread
> before flaming:
> http://www.nedit.org/pipermail/discuss/2009-March/009996.html
>
> I really think that "upstream default" just does not work in this case.
>
> Then, a similar statement can be made about the main Motif application
> (for me), nedit.
> A new release is not in sight, but there are essential bugfixes in the
> current development version.
> People on the nedit mailing list explicitly suggested using the
> development snapshot (aka "nedit 5.6") in our distribution.
> Would mages object to me updating nedit from the old stable 5.5 to a
> snapshot of the current sources, tested (hosted) by myself?
>

Why not just offer both, like we do for most spells that have "stable"
and "devel" versions? I don't see the harm in doing it that way, and
then you don't have to worry about breaking away from standard practice,
since that would be standard. You could do this for both nedit and
lesstif, since AFAIK just having the "devel" (i.e., SCM) versions is
what's needed to get them working properly.

The one thing I can see as a difference is that if the "stable" version
is still offered then it doesn't force anyone to use the "devel"
version, so people might use the "stable" version and then complain that
it doesn't work. Having only the "devel" versions would prevent people
who are not in the know from running into problems. However, isn't that
the job of the SA, rather than the distro?

Just my 2 cents.

--
Justin "flux_control" Boffemmyer
Cauldron wizard and general mage
Source Mage GNU/Linux
http://www.sourcemage.org

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