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[Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>]

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 02:46:12AM -0800, seth AT swoolley.homeip.net wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:56:35AM +0100, "Andra?? 'ruskie' Levstik" wrote:
> > On 10:42:30 2007-01-07 seth AT swoolley.homeip.net wrote:
> > > > Which we provide them with.... What we don't support is constantly
> > > > installing a newer version of our system... 
> > > 
> > > You probably mean that we don't support iso-based upgrades.  We support 
> > > in-situ upgrades the same as an iso-based binary distro would, but it's 
> > > more like a debian update than an iso-based update.
> > > 
> > > We don't support "upgrade installs" where the iso/installer does the 
> > > work because the package manager is strong enough to do it (unlike rpm).
> > > 
> > > We could always make cauldron handle upgrades, but it's almost 
> > > pointless since we already have a better system.
> > > 
> > Acctually I was refering to the people that install a FRESH system every
> > time a NEW stable release comes out with other distros. I know of people
> > that install for example slackware 9.0 then when 9.1 comes out they backup
> > their old config and do a FRESH install completly obliterating the old 
> > one.
> 
> That's just wrong on so many levels. :)
> 
> Actually, it really depends on the distro's accepted processes.  There 
> really 
> isn't that much of a difference between a fresh install and an smgl update 
> in 
> the end result.  Circumstances dictate the choice here (mostly which distro 
> you use).
> 
> > 
> > Personaly I think updating from ISO might be usefull in a limited scope.
> > For example for a box that is not connected to the internet due to 
> > whatever
> > reasons etc. But this can be done using our current system anyway.
> 
> summon has a feature that lets you grab the urls offline, but it's not
> integrated into cast.
> 
> Cast can let you download all first.  If we added a switch that merely 
> printed out urls and filenames and paused the process before casting, we 
> could feed that to a script that runs on another box and you can write 
> its output to a cd.
> 
> Then sorcery could be made to look at cascading locations in addition to 
> /var/spool/sorcery.
> 
> Wouldn't be that hard.
> 
> Or we could just provide an iso with all the updated sources between 
> stable updates.

This is becoming way too tangential, I think it should move toa separate
thread for the benefit of other readers not following this thread so closely.
Thanks.

-Andrew


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