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  • From: Jeremy Blosser <jblosser-smgl AT firinn.org>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] CMS talks (was Re: website)
  • Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:49:46 -0500

On Oct 20, Pieter Lenaerts [e-type AT sourcemage.org] wrote:
> On Fri, October 20, 2006 16:16, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> > On Oct 20, Pieter Lenaerts [e-type AT sourcemage.org] wrote:
> >> I guess this discussion has lead to two different topics, the docs topic
> >> and the cms topic.
> >>
> >> the docs topic is covered in another thread, so let's focus on the cms
> >> thing.
> >
> > I don't see them as very different things. We need docs, and we need a
> > website that support our docs.
>
> Those are two different things iyam: the content and the presentation
>
> > What I'd like to see is a group start doing
> > docs and then -- after they have them -- identify what they need from a
> > site. Then we can do an eval. I don't want to waste^Wspend a lot of time
> > on an eval when we don't really know what we need til we have some success
> > producing content.
>
> I don't agree with this at all.
>
> iyam the content is completely seperated from how we present it.
>
> people can continue/start writing like hell, loose from the evaluation of
> drupal or any cms.
>
> why would docs contain different information in a different cms? of course
> some conversion may be necessary, but again, this has nothing to do with
> the content.

The information wouldn't be different. The point is we don't have a lot of
people resources or time, and it's really frustrating that whenever this
conversation comes up everyone just focuses on arguing a case for
$FAVORITE_CMS instead of spending the time writing some docs.

The primary problem with the existing site/software is a lack of content.
If we can't fix that there's no point spending the significant time that
would be involved in switching to something else. This would be like doing
the VCS eval if we didn't have source code to put into it.

Some argue we need to switch to make it easier for people to write docs,
and while that may have some merit, we've done it at least twice and it
hasn't really made a difference. Which is why I say: whoever writes the
docs can pick the frontend/CMS after they're done.

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