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["Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT sourcemage.org>]

Andrew wrote:
> I dont think that email strictly required html :-)
>   
Sorry, wrong radio-button in Thunderbird.
> but I'll respond anyway. 
Thanks.
> Basically whats missing are the things you've
> pointed out are missing.
>   
I was confused by your terminology, but now I think I understand.
> In a word, merging. 
I will try to explore that. I will try to explore that. I'm not against 
using in SMGL something other than what I use at work :-), gives me a 
better perspective on things, but I'd like to understand the concerns 
and find out if there's a solution.
> For me, I want to be able to have my private branch be an actual
> commitable branch, not just a seperate copied working tree. Sometimes
> on bigger projects I'll do that with a p4 sandbox. Not being able to
> commit sort of defeats the point of revision control.
>   
So private branches work, they just don't work as good as desired, and 
you already have a solution for this problem (a sandbox). Another 
solution may be named branches on the server, e.g. branch/andrew, where 
only you have access.
> Does that answer your question?
>   
Yes, thanks!
> Distributed scms let you take a working tree and turn them into new
> commitable branches, either by definition (mercurial, bzr, cogito, etc)
> or with a seperate command (arch, bazaar, arx, svk (i think)).
>   
Darcs seems to be particularly strong in the merging area, maybe we 
should look at it? It even has Tailor built on top of it, quite 
sophisticated thing that does required extraordinary merging support. 
It's written in esoteric language, but it should scare us, we program in 
bash ;-).
> Also, the ability to use scm functionalities while disconnected (or
> server is down) is useful. Both svn and p4 let you modify files while
> you're offline, but you can do p4 diff or anything.
>   
You meant that you can not do "p4 diff?"

My original argument is that from maturity standpoint, there's nothing 
but Subversion. CVS and Perforce are mature but lack essentials like 
renames or disconnected operation, and all others are very young.

Sergey.