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  • From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>
  • To: George Sherwood <pilot AT beernabeer.com>
  • Cc: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] SMGL as GNU-certified Free(R)(TM) Distro?
  • Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:59:31 -0800

On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 05:50:11PM -0500, George Sherwood wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 08:24 -0600, Jeremy Blosser (emrys) wrote:
> <snip of most of emrys text>
>
> > > Having z-rejected being hosted and managed by a team member that
> > > volunteers to help manage it is perfectly acceptable to me. We have
> > > tons
> > > of developers that explicitly don't support z-rejected. Isn't it a bit
> > > disingenuous to advertise that we do support it?
> >
> > No, it's disingenuous (and fallacious) to claim we don't really support it
> > just because some of our developers won't touch it. We have people that
> > don't have a problem supporting it, therefore it is supported both in name
> > and in fact.
>
> As a developer that has been around along time, I agree with emrys
> position. I am not looking for the holy grail of free software.

Why not?

> I am working on this distribution to have a system that gets done what
> I want and doesn't get in the way. I don't see any gain to our
> distribution in restricting it in this way. IMO, users would flee
> when it got too difficult to use the software they wanted.

1) Why is this for the users?

2) Why would they flee when the process of initiating non-free software
would remain essentially identical?

> Eventually
> it would drive developers away. I did not get into this for a
> quasi-religious quest.
>
> George Sherwood

This is merely a question of what we support and that we don't put it on
our website/mirrors directly. In a usability sense, there would be
virtually no difference.

It can be supported by an entity that isn't the same name of the group
that has consensus around the free part. The people who don't mind
losing freedom can have their own resources expended.

Ultimately your pragmatics are still intact. The question is a matter
of public support from the overall entity.

Seth

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