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[Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>]

I think the smarter/safer dispel + visa'd libraries idea is a good one. Im
however wary of putting yet more new stuff in the 1.13 sorcery release
at near the last minute (and thus dragging it out more).

I think we should evaluate the special-case spell idea for the short
term and investigate the smarter/safer dispel in the 1.14 release, if
it pans out well and/or the special-case spell idea doesnt do well we
can always backport it to a 1.13.[1-x] release.

On that note, maybe there should be more frequent but smaller sorcery
releases rather than big ones every 6-8 months? Doing that means
serializing the big features even more though, people might not like that.

-Andrew

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 04:48:59PM -0700, Seth Alan Woolley wrote:
> The "until the `cast --queue' operation is over" part is difficult when 
> we throw in that people like to break in the middle and/or ctrl-c, or 
> that stuff simply breaks sometimes.  Otherwise it would be a bit 
> cleaner/faster than watching where binaries and libraries are linked for 
> every spell.
> 
> cleanse --fix already does ldd analysis for every spell -- if we pulled 
> it into the same place that md5logs are made, we wouldn't lose much 
> speed, I think -- it would just be a lot smarter at a small cost.
> 
> Seth
> 
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 07:42:23PM -0400, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> > This "alien store" is a nifty thing to have until the `cast --queue' 
> > operation
> > is over. One way to do this is to install the new spell version without
> > removing the old one (fake dispel), and "subtract" install logs to figure 
> > out
> > which files have to go to ultimately remove the old version. In this case,
> > libcrypto.so link would be overwritten by a new link, but 
> > libcrypto-0.9.7.so
> > would stay until the whole queue was cast. Only then those "legitimate 
> > aliens"
> > would be removed by `cleanse --fix' at the very end.
> > Two optimizations that I see are: (1) only do "fake dispel" for stuff in
> > /usr/lib, so that files in /usr/{bin,include} are removed at once; (2) 
> > make
> > "fake dispel" disabled by default, and only enable it for selected few 
> > spells.
> > 
> > Quoting Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>:
> > 
> > >A kind of temporary alien store until the libraries are no longer
> > >useful.
> > 
> > 
> 
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