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[Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>]

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:55:30AM -0700, Eric Sandall wrote:
> Okay, so it sounds like this is what we're wanting for the addendum:
> 
> (Add a comment that the Project Lead is a member of the Team Leads)
> (All numbers will be changed to <word> <(#)>, e.g. "forty-two (42)")
> 
> * No vote shall be sent to the public mailing list (a note saying you voted 
> is
> allowed, but do not include your vote in the e-mail).
> 
> * Voting shall last for one (1) week (seven (7) days from the time the vote 
> is
> started).
> 
> * If there is no winner by our standards then a new voting process is 
> started
> (skipping nominations), but with only the top fifty percent (50%) of the
> candidates automatically nominated and seconded (minimum of two (2)
> candidates).

Why not use ranking?  Then you can do an instant runoff and not require a 
revote, and it's more accurate than a simple runoff.

> 
> * Team Leads can be voted out of office in the following way
>   # A request is sent for the removal of a current Team Lead along with a
> nomination for a replacement (no Team Lead can be removed without a
> replacement).
>   # A vote to remove a Lead can only occur once (1) a term for each 
> individual
> Lead.

I'd like to remove this provision and replace it with assent of half the 
respective team members under the lead or two of the team leaders without 
the respective team lead.

   # A vote to remove a Lead can only occur with an assent of half of the 
team members under the Lead or an assent of two other Leads.

I think that would prevent a recall from happening too often but would 
enable emergency recalls even if they survived one previous recall.

Surviving a recall gains them immunity under the proposed system, so 
they could purposefully engineer their own recall and survive it and 
then procede to destroy the project and have no recourse for recalling 
them.

>   # Both the request and the nomination must be seconded by distinct 
> individuals
> (e.g. the person proposing cannot second either the nomination or the vote, 
> nor
> can another individual second both the nomination and the vote).

This would then be moot under the above proposed change.

> 
> * Team Lead positions have a term of one (1) year starting from when they 
> take
> office.
>   # Before the end of one (1) year a request for nominations as for a normal
> Team Lead vote will occur.
>   # If no nominations are forthcoming and/or the only nominee is the current
> Team Lead and the Team Lead accepts the nomination (or default in the prior
> case) then he/she remains the Team Lead with no vote needed.
>   # Voting must be finished one (1) month before the current Lead's term is 
> up.
> 
> * A vote of all the Team Leads may veto any nomination/vote
> 
> * At the end of the vote the Project Lead will post the results along with 
> an
> alphabetical listing of all valid voters to sm-discuss.
> 
> * In the event that a Team Lead steps down and he/she has an Assistant Lead,
> that Assistant Lead will become the Team Lead while nominations and voting 
> are
> conducted for the recently vacated position. The Assistant Team Lead may be
> nominated for the position.
> 
> * Team Leads are responsible for fulfilling their duties listed here:
> http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=Team+Lead+Duties
> 
> * The Team Leads are responisble for interpreting organizational documents.
> 
> Do we want to have a "voting season" so that voting happens at the same time
> (though technically it will anyways once we get the terms in, since every 
> year
> that Lead will be up for a vote again around the same time). We also don't 
> want
> all the Leads replaced at the same time (or have the potential to be 
> replaced),
> so staggering the votes would probably be a good idea.

I think a voting season is desirable and would increase participation.

> 
> Any nays? Comments?
> 
> -sandalle
> 
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