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[Karsten Behrmann <BearPerson AT gmx.net>]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:15:41 +0100
Benoit PAPILLAULT <benoit.papillault AT sourcemage.org> wrote:

> Andrew a écrit :
> > Well, its still the same fundamental topic, there is no usb support built
> > into the kernel, or the initrd. Who made the decision to remove it from
> > being directly in the kernel? What is there to be gained from having
> > something as common as usb as modules instead of in the kernel? Isnt
> > the iso kernel supposed to work on a wide range of hardware? Shouldnt
> > anything thats required to actually /boot/ into a usuable system be IN
> > the kernel? I can understand not having raid controllers or firewire
> > controllers in the kernel since one doesnt normally boot the iso with
> > them, but usb keyboards or mass storage? come on.
> > 
> > -Andrew
> 
> No one decided and our Team Lead has been silent (My name do not even 
> appears in the ISO Roadmap [0]) ... so I'm just contributing, like our 
> previous Project Leader, namely Eric Schabell.

Welcome to the club. I'm not on there either. I'm rather busy currently,
but just because I'm not on the roadmap by name does not stop me from
helping and doing stuff. I do hope it doesn't stop you either.

But why not discuss? iirc, we /usually/ discuss and do not just wait for
a lead to say something.

Right now, I see the following:
-- USB CDROM (includes anything it needs - USB controllers etc.)
- in kernel
Pro: <fill me>
Contra: <please add>
- on initrd
Pro: needed to mount ISO
Contra: increases initrd size
- on CD
Pro: <...>
Contra: Not any help anymore there.
(you can't put the key to the safe inside the safe)

-- USB keyboard (also includes all this needs)
- in kernel
Pro: Needed to be able to input anything
Contra: bloats kernel size
- on initrd
Pro: <...>
Contra: Without auto-detection you have no way to load it
- on CD
Pro: <...>
Contra: Way too late too

Anyone want to add/fill any in?
Any comments?

So Far,
  Karsten

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