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[Eric Schabell <eric AT schabell.com>]

> > >>>Howdy ISO makers!
> > >>>
> > >>>Was talking with you on irc yesterday about testing this iso for
> > >>>installing with usb storage and scsi cdrom enabled laptop. 
> > 
> > [cut]
> > 
> > >This has bitten several users before [0], hotplug will not save you since
> > >the users ive talked to cant get past the initrd menu since the keyboard
> > >doesnt work! I would suggest just using the suggested patch and just
> > >putting usb controller + keyboard support directly in the kernel. Things
> > >like keyboard support really should NOT be outside the kernel in
> > >module-land, its just asking for trouble.
> > 
> > We were talking about USB CDROM device, not USB keyboards. So, your 
> > reply is out of topic.
> > 
> 
> Well, its still the same fundamental topic, there is no usb support built
> into the kernel, or the initrd. Who made the decision to remove it from
> being directly in the kernel? What is there to be gained from having
> something as common as usb as modules instead of in the kernel? Isnt
> the iso kernel supposed to work on a wide range of hardware? Shouldnt
> anything thats required to actually /boot/ into a usuable system be IN
> the kernel? I can understand not having raid controllers or firewire
> controllers in the kernel since one doesnt normally boot the iso with
> them, but usb keyboards or mass storage? come on.
> 
This seems rather counter productive posting... how about only
contributing something positive or not at all.

I was talking with BearPerson on irc about this, he asked me to post my
results, I did. This should lead to a better iso next time.

I am sorry to wake up the crowd on the iso sidelines. I for one am glad
to report my finding, hope they will help and eagerly await the
following iso.

PS. Iso makers, remain modivated even in the face of critisism!

erics

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