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  • From: Sergey A Lipnevich <sergeyli AT pisem.net>
  • To: eric AT sandall.us
  • Cc: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] sorcery update &lt;-&gt; system-update
  • Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 15:05:45 -0400

With all due respect, I'd like to oppose such attitude. I bet you won't be happy if tomorrow your favorite spell gets renamed, or I publish your PHP-Nuke under name phpn in my section because I can logically reason why I did that, or I ask on the list and receive no responses against such name change except one -- yours. You as a spell creator here are more important than anybody.
In the same vein, maintaining little-changed interface for users is important. Users as a mass are not supposed to have active attitude, although they're welcome to. My issue is that to change system interface to behave differently, like bind new action to the old button, you have to get substantial voices for it, not just reasoning. If Debian changed name of apt, or some apt options, now, would it make Debian users happy? Larry Wall wants to change regex in Perl 6 so that frequently used things are shorter to type, and it gets him a hell of patience and evangelism to even make people think about that.
`Sorcery update' now is orthogonal to `sorcery update' which I'm used to, and I don't like it. But I'm trying to comply and suggest that, following Nick's logic, scribe then has to be primary command to schedule and cast spells that need updating. Why not to follow the change all the way through and make things orderly again?
Thanks for listening,

Sergey.

Eric Sandall wrote:

Nick Jennings wrote:


So I personally deliberated over this after not getting much of a
response, and decided that this is the logical way to issue the
commands.

scribe controls the grimoire. You run scribe update to update the
grimoires. sorcery controls the scripts. You run sorcery update to
update the scripts.


We need `scribe update-and-install-updated-spells' then, with a shorter
name and functionality of `sorcery system-update'. And `sorcery
system-update' has to be deprecated.


Why?

I think the system works fine as it is, especially since not everyone can
be pleased. Some like it this way, some don't, most don't care. Same
with any other naming convention we use. Since any way we do it we'll
make someone unhappy, why don't we just leave it as the Sorcery Team has
decided? That's why we put them there in the first place, to make the end
decisions like this, after input from us (and if we don't give them input,
then they can do whatever they want, within reason ;)).

In short, I like the way it is, it makes sense to me.

-One of Four
a.k.a. sandalle







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