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[Jason Gerhardt <jasongerhardt@gmail.com>]

I second Toby's call out. This list has a lot of value when it's on
topic. I don't think it serves anyone to post depressing news with no
possible ecological solutions discussed or to continually trash talk others
too. I've done a bit of that trash talking myself and found it actually
doesn't accomplish anything so I try not to give my energy to it.

Let's stay positive,
Jason

On Thursday, July 14, 2016, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:

> This post does not belong here. Forwarding “news” and a petition about yet
> another example of human cruelty, of the thousands that we are all aware
> of, does not add to our grasp of permaculture. What possible excuse is
> there to forward this here? It teaches us nothing about “the genocide
> sector” that we don’t know. It has nothing to do with permaculture.
>
> Trying to hide its non-permacultural nature by calling it a sector
> analysis tells me that the poster knows it doesn’t belong here.
>
> If someone wants to offer their own original thoughts about human rights
> with respect to permaculture, in their own words, I’d support that and read
> with interest. But simply forwarding to a permaculture list a petition and
> articles about a horrible situation is something I object to. Claiming it’s
> about sectors just makes it worse.
>
> Is there anyone else who doesn't want this list to be a dumping ground for
> all the sad news articles and petitions that are out there? Or would we
> like more of this?
>
> Will a post teach us something new or enlarge our grasp of permaculture?
> If it doesn’t have the word “permaculture” in it, or talk about design or
> regenerative solutions, I ask that we really think hard about posting
> (particularly forwarding) it here, especially since we regularly talk about
> what belongs here. Ironic that Declan just brought this up. Talk about not
> doing sector analysis before acting! The purpose (and name) of this list is
> decidedly a sector that influences what belongs here.
>
> Well, I guess I’m officially a curmudgeon, griping about slipping
> standards. I promise my next post will be positive. If I can just remember
> that promise!
>
> Back to solving problems I might actually solve, at a scale I can work
> with.
>
> Toby
> tobyhemenway.com
>
>
> > On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:21 PM, joao pedro goncalves <joaovox@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > for a global scale sector analysis - watch out for human rights
> violations
> > and genocide sector.
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> https://www.dafoh.org/petition-to-the-united-nations/signature-forms-2016-petition/
> > <
> https://www.dafoh.org/petition-to-the-united-nations/signature-forms-2016-petition/
> >*
> >
> > *
> https://www.dafoh.org/unethical-organ-harvesting/forced-organ-harvesting-in-china/
> > <
> https://www.dafoh.org/unethical-organ-harvesting/forced-organ-harvesting-in-china/
> >*
> > https://www.dafoh.org/evidence/matas-kilour-report/
> >
> >
> > *http://www.chinaorganharvest.org/introduction/
> > <http://www.chinaorganharvest.org/introduction/>*
> >
> >
> http://cja.org/downloads/Kilgour-Matas-organ-harvesting-rpt-July6-eng.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> http://endorganpillaging.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Bloody_Harvest-The_Slaughter-June-23-V2.pdf
> >
> > Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIxE5kZXjsY&feature=youtu.be
> >
> >
> > Wikipedia:
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
> >
> > <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >
> > Sem
> > vírus. www.avast.com
> > <
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > João Gonçalves
> >
> > "Ao comprar ou consumir de forma ética também está a intervir na
> paisagem e
> > a decidir quem tem trabalho."
> >
> > "Eating is an agricultural act"  -  "Comer é um acto agrícola" - Wendell
> > Berry
> >
> > "Permacultura (Cultura Permanente) é um sistema ético de design
> ecológico."
> >
> > (+351) 96 96 80 009
> > Chão Sobral - Oliveira do Hospital - Serra do Açor - Portugal
> > http://ecotrabalho.com/
> > http://permacultureglobal.com/users/902-joao-goncalves
> > http://chaosobral.org/index_pt.htm
> > http://www.youtube.com/joaovox
> > http://agricultura-familiar-tradicional.blogspot.pt
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/joaovox
> > http://picasaweb.google.pt/uniprochaosobral
> >
> > Para descobrir:
> > Documentário "Alface" na Aldeia das Amoreiras
> > http://vimeo.com/58999047
> > Permacultura na Serra do Açor - Portugal
> > http://permaculturinginportugal.net/blog/
> > "Comida que nunca acaba" / Permacultura no Malawi
> > http://www.neverendingfood.org/
> > Centro de Ecologia Integral
> > http://www.integralecology.org
> > Nyumbani - Kenya
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