permaculture

[Jacqueline Greenleaf <jacque@book-woman.net>]

I already only use this list as a pointer to interesting sources. In general, 
it’s been a disappointing list to me.

The feuds over permaculture purity, and now the off-topic petitions could 
well push me into unsubscribing. Now none of you are obligated to care - it’s 
your list, you can do what you want with it. The thing is, it seldom feels 
like MY list. JMO.



> On Jul 14, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
> 
> This post does not belong here. Forwarding “news” and a petition about yet 
> another example of human cruelty, of the thousands that we are all aware 
> of, does not add to our grasp of permaculture. What possible excuse is 
> there to forward this here? It teaches us nothing about “the genocide 
> sector” that we don’t know. It has nothing to do with permaculture. 
> 
> Trying to hide its non-permacultural nature by calling it a sector analysis 
> tells me that the poster knows it doesn’t belong here. 
> 
> If someone wants to offer their own original thoughts about human rights 
> with respect to permaculture, in their own words, I’d support that and read 
> with interest. But simply forwarding to a permaculture list a petition and 
> articles about a horrible situation is something I object to. Claiming it’s 
> about sectors just makes it worse. 
> 
> Is there anyone else who doesn't want this list to be a dumping ground for 
> all the sad news articles and petitions that are out there? Or would we 
> like more of this?
> 
> Will a post teach us something new or enlarge our grasp of permaculture? If 
> it doesn’t have the word “permaculture” in it, or talk about design or 
> regenerative solutions, I ask that we really think hard about posting 
> (particularly forwarding) it here, especially since we regularly talk about 
> what belongs here. Ironic that Declan just brought this up. Talk about not 
> doing sector analysis before acting! The purpose (and name) of this list is 
> decidedly a sector that influences what belongs here.
> 
> Well, I guess I’m officially a curmudgeon, griping about slipping 
> standards. I promise my next post will be positive. If I can just remember 
> that promise!
> 
> Back to solving problems I might actually solve, at a scale I can work with.
> 
> Toby
> tobyhemenway.com
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