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  • From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
  • To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field | Organic Health
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 01:55:08 -0000

There are may other wind pollinated plants that our bees really depend upon for survival. Willows in early spring are about the only plants that bees can find food at and when the catkins are out they are full of bees. You do see fewer bees on flowering corn but then a little bit of potent poison brought in a hive goes a long way to kill all around.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Greenleaf" <jacque@book-woman.net>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario,Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field | Organic Health


It’s true the world is a surprising place, but do bees collect corn pollen? Corn is a wind-pollinated plant.



On Nov 10, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Eisenhauer <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net> wrote:

The seed coating enters the plant systemically and is expressed in the pollen which bees collect to feed their brood. The studies done shows bees within flight distance of GMO corn treated with the systemic pesticides as a seed coat experience increased percentages of hive deaths. This Is old science well known by beekeepers like myself and thousands of others. This sort of die off occurred in the Rhine valley of Germany and so they banned the pesticides after fining Bayer Crop Science millions and reimbursing beekeepers for their losses. Really this is ignorance in action causing the inevitable result of failure to our living systems.
Steven Eisenhauer.

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence London
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:28 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field | Organic Health

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Jacqueline Greenleaf <jacque@book-woman.net
wrote:

I’m puzzled.

Let me say first that I hate GMOs and I am very concerned about
honeybees in particular and pollinators in general. And I think
neonics should be banned yesterday.

But how could the planting of a wind-pollinated crop cause such
massive bee die-off? Further, it is not clear in the article that the
crop was even mature enough (what does a few weeks mean?) to even be releasing pollen.


Because the SEEDS are COATED with NEONICOTINOID pesticides so that the seed and its sproutling will survive attacks from predatory insects and diseases.
How the neonicotinoid coating spread into the environment so that bees can come in contact with them is the question; possibly airborne dust, rain washing it onto soil, into watercourses and impoundments and onto plants.

Was the field sprayed with neonics?


Its on the seeds, i.e. seed coatings, the new thing (as in frankenthing).


If so, the fact that the field was planted with GMOs has no bearing,
unless neonics are only applied to GMO corn, which I do not believe to
be the case. But the article does not say that any kind of pesticide
was applied to this field.

In short, this is a very poorly written article. Now the world is full
of those, but I hate to see permies inflict on themselves a reputation
of fuzzy thinking.


Poor article but better than no article. Better to propagate badnews about neonicotinoids even if the site and its writers are less than dedicated (the way we would be).

Jacque




On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:

37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large
GMO
Corn
Field
<
http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-a
fter-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/
37
Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO
Corn Field | Organic Health

http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-a
fter-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/

Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks
ago in Ontario, Canada. The local bee keeper, Dave Schuit who
produces honey in Elmwood lost about 37 million bees which are about 600 hives.

“Once the corn started to get planted our bees died by the millions,”
Schuit said. While many bee keepers blame neonicotinoids, or “neonics.”
for
colony collapse of bees and many countries in EU have banned
neonicotinoid
class of pesticides, the US Department of Agriculture fails to ban
insecticides known as neonicotinoids, manufactured by Bayer
CropScience
Inc.

Two of Bayer’s best-selling pesticides, Imidacloprid and
Clothianidin,
are
known to get into pollen and nectar, and can damage beneficial
insects
such
as bees. The marketing of these drugs also coincided with the
occurrence
of
large-scale bee deaths in many European countries and the United States.

Nathan Carey another local farmer says that this spring he noticed
that there were not enough bees on his farm and he believes that
there is a strong correlation between the disappearance of bees and insecticide use.

In the past, many scientists have struggled to find the exact cause
of
the
massive die-offs, a phenomenon they refer to as “colony collapse
disorder”
(CCD). In the United States, for seven consecutive years, honeybees
are
in
terminal decline.

US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of
bees, wax and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides
are a key problem. “We believe that some subtle interactions between
nutrition, pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill colonies,”
said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS’s bee research laboratory.

The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to
crops.
It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon
honeybee pollination, which means that bees contribute over 30
billion to the
global
economy.

A new study published in the Journal Proceedings of the National
Academy
of
Sciences revealed that neonicotinoid pesticides kill honeybees by
damaging
their immune system and making them unable to fight diseases and
bacteria.

After reporting large losses of bees after exposure to Imidacloprid,
banned
it for use on corn and sunflowers, despite protests by Bayer. In
another smart move, France also rejected Bayer’s application for
Clothianidin,
and
other countries, such as Italy, have banned certain neonicotinoids
as
well.

After record-breaking honeybee deaths in the UK, the European Union
has banned multiple pesticides, including neonicotinoid pesticides.

*You have our permission to reprint this article via creative
commons license if you attribute us with a live backlink to this
article.* -
Organic
Health <http://organichealth.co>
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