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[Jacqueline Greenleaf <jacque@book-woman.net>]

It’s true the world is a surprising place, but do bees collect corn pollen? 
Corn is a wind-pollinated plant. 



> On Nov 10, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Eisenhauer <eisenhauerdesign@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> The seed coating enters the plant systemically and is expressed in the 
> pollen which bees collect to feed their brood.  The studies done shows bees 
> within flight distance of GMO corn treated with the systemic pesticides as 
> a seed coat experience increased percentages of hive deaths.  This Is old 
> science well known by beekeepers like myself and thousands of others.  This 
> sort of die off occurred in the Rhine valley of Germany and so they banned 
> the pesticides after fining Bayer Crop Science millions and reimbursing 
> beekeepers for their losses.  Really this is ignorance in action causing 
> the inevitable result of failure to our living systems.
> Steven Eisenhauer.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: permaculture [mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lawrence London
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:28 PM
> To: permaculture
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada 
> After Planting Large GMO Corn Field | Organic Health
> 
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Jacqueline Greenleaf <jacque@book-woman.net
>> wrote:
> 
>> I’m puzzled.
>> 
>> Let me say first that I hate GMOs and I am very concerned about 
>> honeybees in particular and pollinators in general. And I think 
>> neonics should be banned yesterday.
>> 
>> But how could the planting of a wind-pollinated crop cause such 
>> massive bee die-off? Further, it is not clear in the article that the 
>> crop was even mature enough (what does a few weeks mean?) to even be 
>> releasing pollen.
>> 
> 
> Because the SEEDS are COATED with NEONICOTINOID pesticides so that the seed 
> and its sproutling will survive attacks from predatory insects and diseases.
> How the neonicotinoid coating spread into the environment so that bees can 
> come in contact with them is the question; possibly airborne dust, rain 
> washing it onto soil, into watercourses and impoundments and onto plants.
> 
> Was the field sprayed with neonics?
> 
> 
> Its on the seeds, i.e. seed coatings, the new thing (as in frankenthing).
> 
> 
>> If so, the fact that the field was planted with GMOs has no bearing, 
>> unless neonics are only applied to GMO corn, which I do not believe to 
>> be the case. But the article does not say that any kind of pesticide 
>> was applied to this field.
>> 
>> In short, this is a very poorly written article. Now the world is full 
>> of those, but I hate to see permies inflict on themselves a reputation 
>> of fuzzy thinking.
>> 
> 
> Poor article but better than no article. Better to propagate badnews about 
> neonicotinoids even if the site and its writers are less than dedicated 
> (the way we would be).
> 
>> Jacque
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large 
>>> GMO
>> Corn
>>> Field
>>> <
>> http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-a
>> fter-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/
>>> 37
>>> Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO 
>>> Corn  Field | Organic Health
>>> 
>> http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-a
>> fter-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/
>>> 
>>> Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks 
>>> ago in Ontario, Canada. The local bee keeper, Dave Schuit who 
>>> produces honey in Elmwood lost about 37 million bees which are about 600 
>>> hives.
>>> 
>>> “Once the corn started to get planted our bees died by the millions,”
>>> Schuit said. While many bee keepers blame neonicotinoids, or “neonics.”
>> for
>>> colony collapse of bees and many countries in EU have banned
>> neonicotinoid
>>> class of pesticides, the US Department of Agriculture fails to ban 
>>> insecticides known as neonicotinoids, manufactured by Bayer 
>>> CropScience
>> Inc.
>>> 
>>> Two of Bayer’s best-selling pesticides, Imidacloprid and 
>>> Clothianidin,
>> are
>>> known to get into pollen and nectar, and can damage beneficial 
>>> insects
>> such
>>> as bees. The marketing of these drugs also coincided with the 
>>> occurrence
>> of
>>> large-scale bee deaths in many European countries and the United States.
>>> 
>>> Nathan Carey another local farmer says that this spring he noticed 
>>> that there were not enough bees on his farm and he believes that 
>>> there is a strong correlation between the disappearance of bees and 
>>> insecticide use.
>>> 
>>> In the past, many scientists have struggled to find the exact cause 
>>> of
>> the
>>> massive die-offs, a phenomenon they refer to as “colony collapse
>> disorder”
>>> (CCD). In the United States, for seven consecutive years, honeybees 
>>> are
>> in
>>> terminal decline.
>>> 
>>> US scientists have found 121 different pesticides in samples of 
>>> bees, wax and pollen, lending credence to the notion that pesticides 
>>> are a key problem. “We believe that some subtle interactions between 
>>> nutrition, pesticide exposure and other stressors are converging to kill 
>>> colonies,”
>>> said Jeffery Pettis, of the ARS’s bee research laboratory.
>>> 
>>> The collapse in the global honeybee population is a major threat to
>> crops.
>>> It is estimated that a third of everything we eat depends upon 
>>> honeybee pollination, which means that bees contribute over 30 
>>> billion to the
>> global
>>> economy.
>>> 
>>> A new study published in the Journal Proceedings of the National 
>>> Academy
>> of
>>> Sciences revealed that neonicotinoid pesticides kill honeybees by
>> damaging
>>> their immune system and making them unable to fight diseases and
>> bacteria.
>>> 
>>> After reporting large losses of bees after exposure to Imidacloprid,
>> banned
>>> it for use on corn and sunflowers, despite protests by Bayer. In 
>>> another smart move, France also rejected Bayer’s application for 
>>> Clothianidin,
>> and
>>> other countries, such as Italy, have banned certain neonicotinoids 
>>> as
>> well.
>>> 
>>> After record-breaking honeybee deaths in the UK, the European Union 
>>> has banned multiple pesticides, including neonicotinoid pesticides.
>>> 
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