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[mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>]

My first wife, who made her living as a yoga teacher and a teacher of 
improvisation in the arts, used the idea of Zone Zero constantly in her 
classes and teaching.  Here's an essay she wrote about Zone Zero that was 
widely circulated in the mid 90s.

http://dreamtimevillage.org/articles/taking_off_zone_zero.html

I should qualify this post by saying she was an anarchist and was never 
interested in Permaculture with a capital.  Sadly for all of us, she died 
suddenly of pancreatic cancer in 2004.

~mIEKAL


On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Steve Hart wrote:

> ZONE 00...I too have a degree of disquiet about Z00....as Mollison
> said...it was never part of the curriculum...but hey try and tell that to
> the thousands out there who are seriously committed to this sector. So
> perhaps the problem is the solution...work with it not against it. After
> all there are a lot of people, more every day it seems, that need this
> designing or often redesigning. A bit like reinventing ? Often too great a
> Design Challenge.
> 
> Like Biodynamics...Mollison said ..ahh thatsFairies at the bottom of the
> garden shit...but when one actually takes the time to scratch the surface
> and explore the deeper corridors there we see tremendous opportunity and
> value not wise to ignore.
> 
> Besides who invited you Toby to be the god in " cleaning up ambiguities and
> logical inconsistencies that weaken permaculture terminology" ? Perhaps
> better time spent on cleaning up all the standards or lack of them as per
> Scott Pittman's recent podcast. God bless you...Steve Hart
> 
> 
> On 6 July 2014 22:57, Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've posted some thoughts on why I think zone 00 as the state of the
>> designer's mind is a bad term.
>> 
>> It's at:
>> 
>> http://www.patternliteracy.com/816-zone-00-right-intentions-wrong-term
>> 
>> Zone 00: Right Intentions, Wrong Term
>> 
>> "One of my pet projects is to clean up the ambiguities and logical
>> inconsistencies that weaken permaculture terminology. Today I take aim at
>> the term Zone 00, used to mean either the designer or user of a
>> permaculture design, or their inner state. It’s a concept spawned by good
>> intentions, but calling it a zone is logically inconsistent, redundant, and
>> worst of all, has no design use. The designer’s mind is a crucial
>> influence, but it’s not a zone. If it’s an influence on a design, that
>> makes it a sector, right? (If you just slapped your forehead and said
>> “Doh!” then you need read no further.) So let’s stop using the term zone
>> 00."
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Toby
>> http://patternliteracy.com
>> 
>> 
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