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[ChildrensPeaceGuild <childrenspeaceguild@yahoo.com>]

More tragic news regarding Monsanto, but why does Linda Khan feel the need to 
use the term "outfoxed?" 
This implies Monsanto was able to somehow defeat or outsmart the Obama 
administration. As if there were some genuine conflict and not collusion in 
the form of appointments.
Everyone knows there is a rotating door policy between the White House and 
Monsanto (Clinton, Beachy, Taylor, Vilsack, Romero, ad nauseum)

The Obama administration has long supported Monsanto. "Outfoxed" is a gross 
mischaracterization.

-Roman
Children's Permaculture Guild



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How Monsanto Outfoxed the Obama Administration
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By all means, let us line up the permaculture movement in opposition to this 
freekin ignorant new pope who talks about being in solidarity with the poor 
and 
protecting nature.  And who rode the bus to work and lived in a small urban 
apartment instead of the episcopal palace.

. . . who speaks SPANISH as his first language!  

God almighty, what's this world coming to if South American's are allowed to 
lead large international organizations?  People might get the idea that they 
don't need Europeans or North Americans.  AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT, CAN WE?

Further, we simply cannot allow such a prominent person to talk about any 
subversive ideas that could possibly endanger the centralization of wealth 
and 
our ongoing right to destroy nature, so he must be marginalized by any means 
possible.  

Good work "progressives"!  The world's billionaires appreciate your 
assistance.
 Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
http://www.ipermie.net -- How to permaculture your urban lifestyle






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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:05 AM, venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> 
wrote:

> This is my last post on this topic for those interested, an effort to
> put things in historical perspective

Two more links with important history to complete the picture.

Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:12
The New Pope and Argentina’s "Dirty War"
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17858-the-new-pope-and-argentina-s-dirty-war


Saturday, Mar 16, 2013 01:30 PM EDT
Is Pope Francis a fraud?
After a right-wing coup crushed the reforms of Vatican II, one scholar
says the last two popes are illegitimate
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/16/is_pope_francis_a_fraud/
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, ChildrensPeaceGuild
<childrenspeaceguild@yahoo.com> wrote:
> More tragic news regarding Monsanto, but why does Linda Khan feel the need 
> to use the term "outfoxed?"

I had the same reaction but just ignored it, given the nature of
"professional" (NOT) journalism these days. It is, of course, a gross
inaccuracy to say that the current administration was outfoxed when
everyone knows otherwise. It is typical obsequious or sycophant
journalism playing the agent provocateur to please the employer and
keep
the job.