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- From: Rob McDowell <redwine@charter.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People
- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:13:24 -0500
Being a survivor of the sixties when it appeared that we had at least
this one-population growth-figured out, I never could understand why ZPG
was not supported by people and their governments. It's obvious why
most corporations would want to see exponential PG-more market-but the
politicians? Then it came, you can't deficit spend without economic
growth and the simple way to achieve that is through PG. To have ZPG it
would require a complete overhaul of market capitalism and most
politicians are too invested in that to even contemplate the
possibility. Hence we put the numbers on the wrong side of the
equation.
On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 21:16 -0800, Toby Hemenway wrote:
> How about if we don't feed 9 billion people, don't make the inevitable even
> worse by putting it off yet another 30 years, and instead pay the human
> cost of not inflicting more ecocide on the planet. The most recent 2.5
> billion came from turning oil into food; we're way, way past carrying
> capacity in a way that adopting a "drill, baby, drill" attitude toward food
> won't change. More food makes more people. More people increase human
> impact. That's just physics. Does anyone else see this?
>
> The longer we put off nature's turn to come to bat, the harder she'll swing
> at us.
>
> Toby
> http://patternliteracy.com
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:07 PM, David Fortson wrote:
>
> > Hi friends,
> >
> > We are just returning from the Albuquerque, New Mexico fully inspired
> > that we can sustainably feed 9 billion people. Almost 600 hundred young
> > agrarians, ranchers, farmers, non-profit, business and government
> > officials attended.
> >
> > This event featured Allan Savory, organic labeling expert Katherine
> > DiMatteo, former presidential advisor Gus Speth, forest hero Glora Flora,
> > water expert Sandra Postel, seed expert Molly Jahn and more.
> > http://quiviracoalition.org/Annual_Conference/2012_Speakers/
> >
> > We posted a summary and photos of the event here:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/RRgIgz
> >
> > We'll post videos of some of the top lectures within the next two weeks.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fortson
> >
> > LoaTree
> > ...Live for a Better World
> > 805.450.2357
> > LoaLiving Magazine
> >
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[permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People,
David Fortson, 11/21/2012
- Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People, Heenan Doherty, 11/21/2012
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Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People,
Toby Hemenway, 11/22/2012
- Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People, Rob McDowell, 11/22/2012
- Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People, John D'hondt, 11/22/2012
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Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People,
paul wheaton, 11/22/2012
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Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People,
venaurafarm, 11/22/2012
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Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People,
paul wheaton, 11/22/2012
- Re: [permaculture] How to Feed 9 Billion People, venaurafarm, 11/22/2012
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